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soclydeza85
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 Message 3361 of 3735
14 July 2014 at 1:45am | IP Logged 
Henkkles wrote:
I just started to think, since a lot of Anglophones have difficulties spelling homophonic words correctly in the proper contexts (such as they're, their, there), so do Chinese people similarly often choose the wrong character for a word that is pronounced exactly the same?

I'm really curious.


I've wondered something similar but about similar sounds among "shorthand" writing. For example, in English you could say "I'm going to your house later", but kids might type "i'm going 2 ur house l8er" (they did when I was a kid). Do they do this in other languages? Like maybe "m1 Vater ist hier" (German) or "6 bella" (Italian)
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Jeffers
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 Message 3362 of 3735
14 July 2014 at 4:25am | IP Logged 
soclydeza85 wrote:
Henkkles wrote:
I just started to think, since a lot of Anglophones have difficulties spelling homophonic words correctly in the proper contexts (such as they're, their, there), so do Chinese people similarly often choose the wrong character for a word that is pronounced exactly the same?

I'm really curious.


I've wondered something similar but about similar sounds among "shorthand" writing. For example, in English you could say "I'm going to your house later", but kids might type "i'm going 2 ur house l8er" (they did when I was a kid). Do they do this in other languages? Like maybe "m1 Vater ist hier" (German) or "6 bella" (Italian)


I'm told they do this in French. For example "a+" is used for "à plus tard". Collins has a whole page about French texting, but I can't verify if any of them are still used.
Texting in French
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Merike
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 Message 3363 of 3735
14 July 2014 at 11:01am | IP Logged 
soclydeza85 wrote:
Henkkles wrote:
I just started to think, since a lot of
Anglophones have difficulties spelling homophonic words correctly in the proper
contexts (such as they're, their, there), so do Chinese people similarly often choose
the wrong character for a word that is pronounced exactly the same?

I'm really curious.


I've wondered something similar but about similar sounds among "shorthand" writing.
For example, in English you could say "I'm going to your house later", but kids might
type "i'm going 2 ur house l8er" (they did when I was a kid). Do they do this in other
languages? Like maybe "m1 Vater ist hier" (German) or "6 bella" (Italian)


I can say that in Estonian teenagers also do it. For example words "eleven" and "each
other" are identical in some cases and then some people write something like "We love
11"
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Henkkles
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 Message 3364 of 3735
14 July 2014 at 11:06am | IP Logged 
soclydeza85 wrote:
Henkkles wrote:
I just started to think, since a lot of Anglophones have difficulties spelling homophonic words correctly in the proper contexts (such as they're, their, there), so do Chinese people similarly often choose the wrong character for a word that is pronounced exactly the same?

I'm really curious.


I've wondered something similar but about similar sounds among "shorthand" writing. For example, in English you could say "I'm going to your house later", but kids might type "i'm going 2 ur house l8er" (they did when I was a kid). Do they do this in other languages? Like maybe "m1 Vater ist hier" (German) or "6 bella" (Italian)

Well in Finnish numbers don't work for this purpose because all numbers have at least two syllables, unlike in English where most numbers are monosyllabic (kah-dek-san - eight) so we don't really have any sort of shorthand in text messages, instead we just type as we speak, in our native dialects which are quite effectively shorter than standard language, for example "tuletko sinä" ~> "tuutsä".
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 Message 3365 of 3735
14 July 2014 at 3:19pm | IP Logged 
Mokoma has a song called "Kuu saa valtansa auringolta" and they shorten it as 6A ("kuu saa" -> "kuus A").

also, Italian definitely uses this, and I think German also does but m1 for mein looks extremely weird to me.

Edited by Serpent on 14 July 2014 at 3:21pm

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BOLIO
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 Message 3366 of 3735
14 July 2014 at 11:49pm | IP Logged 
... when you read 422 pages of posts about being a language nerd.
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kujichagulia
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 Message 3367 of 3735
15 July 2014 at 2:42am | IP Logged 
Henkkles wrote:
I just started to think, since a lot of Anglophones have difficulties spelling homophonic words correctly in the proper contexts (such as they're, their, there), so do Chinese people similarly often choose the wrong character for a word that is pronounced exactly the same?

I'm really curious.

I know that this happens in Japan a lot. There are many, many words that have exactly the same pronunciation but have three, four or more Chinese characters.
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stifa
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 Message 3368 of 3735
15 July 2014 at 8:43am | IP Logged 
In Japan, you've at least got abbreviations of stuff, and nico/internet slang like うp、
うぽつ、ktkr、888、 etc

(upload, thanks for uploading, きたこれ, *clapping*)


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