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Alexander Arguelles’ Shadowing technique | ||
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| andee Tetraglot Senior Member Japan Joined 6855 days ago 681 posts - 724 votes  3 sounds Speaks: English*, German, Korean, French | Message 25 of 37 07 May 2010 at 5:44am | IP Logged | ||
I don't think he claims to have invented it; he is just the one that brought it to the attention of many... especially on this forum. I read about a Christopher Dugdale just yesterday that used 'shadowing' with his students and wrote about it online in 1995, but he called it 'mimicking' or 'shadow talking'. I even believe the old Linguaphone instructions (circa 1950) tell us to speak in time with the recording. And if we go back to Audio-Lingual teaching, this was often the practice for at least part of the class. The same with the word lists. No 'invention' per se... people just sharing the methods that work for them. People find ways that suit their learning style through experimentation. My wife has always 'shadowed' even before she read about it. Personally, I used a Leitner system with flashcards before I had heard of Leitner or SRS software. And I have always used the Professor's 'scriptorium' method... even though that started long before I had heard about it. It's also sometimes interesting to read the introductions to language texts from the 1950s or 60s as these detail many of the 'modern' ideas for language learning. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| GREGORG4000 Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5301 days ago 307 posts - 479 votes Speaks: English*, Finnish Studies: Japanese, Korean, Amharic, French | Message 26 of 37 07 May 2010 at 7:20am | IP Logged | ||
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The part that Arguelles added was physical activity, brisk walking or jogging
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| gogglehead Triglot Senior Member Argentina Joined 5853 days ago 248 posts - 320 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Russian, Italian | Message 27 of 37 07 May 2010 at 10:59am | IP Logged | ||
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OK thanks guys!
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| iaf Heptaglot Newbie Germany Joined 5376 days ago 34 posts - 36 votes Speaks: German*, English, French, Spanish, Dutch, Esperanto, Latin | Message 28 of 37 28 May 2010 at 12:02pm | IP Logged | ||
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I didn't actually want to open a new thread because of this minor question:
At the moment, I am doing the so-called scriptorium method with French, Italian und Dutch in order to bring my writing skills to a very high level (using only quite sophisticated sentences). My question is: Do I have to keep the papers on which I wrote the sentences? Can I throw them away? 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| M. Medialis Diglot TAC 2010 Winner Senior Member Sweden Joined 6135 days ago 397 posts - 508 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: Russian, Japanese, French | Message 29 of 37 28 May 2010 at 7:16pm | IP Logged | ||
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iaf: If you're like me (perhaps unlikely..), you may like to do as I do:
Do all your scriptorium in a neat book. I can be pretty motivating to look back and see how much you've actually accomplished. And if you're in the mood, you can take some minutes to quickly read through your old texts and see how much you have improved. This repetition may also help solidifying your knowledge. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| iaf Heptaglot Newbie Germany Joined 5376 days ago 34 posts - 36 votes Speaks: German*, English, French, Spanish, Dutch, Esperanto, Latin | Message 30 of 37 28 May 2010 at 8:24pm | IP Logged | ||
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Okay, that's really a good idea!
So i will keep my papers. By the way: Do you also work 15 minutes for each language using this method? 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| M. Medialis Diglot TAC 2010 Winner Senior Member Sweden Joined 6135 days ago 397 posts - 508 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: Russian, Japanese, French | Message 31 of 37 28 May 2010 at 8:35pm | IP Logged | ||
I've never tried doing scriptorium on two different languages on the same day (mostly because my Japanese reading skills have been too low, but I think it's different now). My scriptorium sessions often last for 30 minutes. I often do scriptorium from literature, and I've experienced great results when I've been shadowing or listening (or listening-reading) to the audio earlier on the same day. However, if I need to activate a language, I ususally do it for 1-2 hours. (my record is 5-6 hours - one of those sweet (but rare) days when I never feel the need to stop). Edited by M. Medialis on 28 May 2010 at 8:35pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| iaf Heptaglot Newbie Germany Joined 5376 days ago 34 posts - 36 votes Speaks: German*, English, French, Spanish, Dutch, Esperanto, Latin | Message 32 of 37 30 May 2010 at 8:12pm | IP Logged | ||
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Do you write the sentences without looking at them again while writing?
In other words: Is it necessary to know the sentence by heart before writing? Can one look at them if one is not sure how to write a word? 1 person has voted this message useful |
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