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| daristani Senior Member United States Joined 6938 days ago 752 posts - 1661 votes  Studies: Uzbek | Message 1 of 8 15 January 2010 at 7:31pm | IP Logged | ||
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I don't know how many people are interested in Haitian Creole, but presumably as a result of the recent earthquake, Dunwoody Press, which publishes a lot of rather expensive books on a wide range of languages, has made their Creole-English Dictionary available as a free pdf download:
http://www.dunwoodypress.com/148/PDF/HCED_2nd_printing.pdf For other materials, Indiana University has a Creole Institute that publishes a range of instructional and lexical materials for Haitian and other French-based Creoles: http://www.indiana.edu/~creole/ DLI also produced a Haitian Creole course, which can be downloaded, along with audio, from the links provided by forum stalwart Fat_Tony, who put them online: http://rapidshare.com/files/274703638/haitianVol1.zip http://rapidshare.com/files/275121792/haitianVol2.zip http://rapidshare.com/files/275298300/haitianVol3.zip http://rapidshare.com/files/275515498/haitianVol4.zip http://rapidshare.com/files/275587503/haitianVol5.zip http://rapidshare.com/files/275304728/Haitianpdf.zip My local newspaper had an interview with someone from the Indiana Creole Institute, who commented that while most French speakers can get the gist of Haitian Creole, most Haitians don't understand standard French, unless they've studied it specifically. 9 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| JW Hexaglot Senior Member United States youtube.com/user/egw Joined 5916 days ago 1802 posts - 2011 votes 22 sounds Speaks: English*, German, Spanish, Ancient Greek, French, Biblical Hebrew Studies: Luxembourgish, Dutch, Greek, Italian | Message 2 of 8 16 January 2010 at 3:25am | IP Logged | ||
I think a more accurate statement is that all educated Haitians speak and understand French, but most Haitians are uneducated. All of the Haitians I know here in Florida speak French fluently--but they are all educated. I may peruse your Haitian Creole references as I've often toyed with the idea of learning a bit and you have gathered many of them in one place. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| daristani Senior Member United States Joined 6938 days ago 752 posts - 1661 votes Studies: Uzbek | Message 3 of 8 16 January 2010 at 3:52am | IP Logged | ||
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Further to the above, the text of one of the Indiana Haitian Creole textbooks can be downloaded here:
http://www.eric.ed.gov/ERICWebPortal/contentdelivery/servlet /ERICServlet?accno=ED356617 3 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| goosefrabbas Triglot Pro Member United States Joined 6162 days ago 393 posts - 475 votes Speaks: English*, French, Spanish Studies: German, Italian Personal Language Map | Message 4 of 8 16 January 2010 at 9:52am | IP Logged | ||
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Great stuff daristani! I'd looked for materials for Haitian Creole a few months ago but couldn't find anything good. I ended up just listening to Haitian radio online. This will certainly come in handy when I delve into (yet another language...) Haitian Creole. :)
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| Wilco Triglot Senior Member Canada Joined 6124 days ago 160 posts - 247 votes Speaks: French*, English, Russian | Message 5 of 8 16 January 2010 at 6:23pm | IP Logged | ||
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Here's other stuff:
Bibliography of many textbooks: http://www.potomitan.info/bibliographie/tutoriel_creole.pdf A Course in Haitian Creole Vol I-III: http://ifile.it/dl Peace Corps has produced a Manual "Haitian Creole" (available online) Haitian trilingual journal of political and literary studies: http://www.tanbou.com/ "You can learn Creole" for English speaking: http://ufdcweb1.uflib.ufl.edu/ufdc/?m=hdRI&i=203186
If exposed a lot, a average french speaker would probably get used to it, but I certainly can't understand (unless it's written). 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Leurre Bilingual Pentaglot Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5219 days ago 219 posts - 372 votes Speaks: French*, English*, Korean, Haitian Creole, SpanishC2 Studies: Japanese | Message 6 of 8 17 January 2010 at 2:28am | IP Logged | ||
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I may be biased, having lived in haiti for some years a while ago, but depending on the subject a french speaker can probably understand quite a bit of haitian creole off the bat, even if it's oral.
The largest differences tend to surface when idioms and insults come in, which tends to be a lot, heheh So for example if you were to go to youtube, Wilco, and look up the debates they were having over the nomination of their new prime minister, they all speak very impeccable textbook (if the word can be used when speaking of a creole) Haitian, but you would be able to understand quite a lot, I'm sure!! If you're interested try it out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_FmiN2IwmU 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Wilco Triglot Senior Member Canada Joined 6124 days ago 160 posts - 247 votes Speaks: French*, English, Russian | Message 7 of 8 17 January 2010 at 8:14am | IP Logged | ||
You're right, I understood more than I thought I would. It really has a unique sound to it (no "r"?) and a quite charming, but disturbing at first, rythm (the absence of articles?). It's definitely not on the same level of speech than what I heard on tv for the last week or so. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| liddytime Pentaglot Senior Member United States mainlymagyar.wordpre Joined 6023 days ago 693 posts - 1328 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Italian, Portuguese, Galician Studies: Hungarian, Vietnamese, Modern Hebrew, Norwegian, Persian, Arabic (Written) | Message 8 of 8 04 June 2010 at 12:46pm | IP Logged | ||
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I spent several weeks in Haiti after the quake. (see my blog here) http://brewdocinhaiti.blogspot.com/ Kreyol is a wonderful and fascinating language. If you speak any romance language it is pretty easy to master the basics. As my friend said " Ah, it's like French without all the picky grammar rules!!". The Haitian people are absolutely wonderful. It is such a shame that such a horrible tragedy has befallen their people. If you do go to Haiti (which I would strongly encourage anyone to do) talk to the folks at the Creole Institute at Indiana University. They set me up with Ann Pale Kreyol and some dictionaries which I found immensely helpful. The DLI course that Fat Tony gave the links for is incredible if you need more than a basic level of Kreyol. Unfortunately, the sound quality is sooooo poor on the files it is painful to listen to some of them. Then, of course, if you search another site...ahem... lets just say there is a "uz" and a "translations" in the site title, there are a multitude of Kreyol materials that I couldn't find anywhere else. As a side note, I work with several native French speakers who claim they can't understand a word of Haitian Kreyol! Bon Chans! Edited by liddytime on 04 June 2010 at 2:49pm 1 person has voted this message useful |
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