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| TixhiiDon Tetraglot Senior Member Japan Joined 5262 days ago 772 posts - 1474 votes  Speaks: English*, Japanese, German, Russian Studies: Georgian | Message 9 of 15 15 February 2010 at 6:50am | IP Logged | ||
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The new version consists of just three levels - review it, recognize it, and produce it. In "recognize it" you see L2 and both think and type L1, and in "produce it" you see L1 and both think and type L2. So the functions are the same, but the typing sections and have been grouped together with the thinking sections.
The new version doesn't tell you what lists to review, but it keeps track of words you haven't practiced for a while and makes you produce them (thinking only, not typing) in the "review my stale words" section. This is a very useful feature that I use all the time. Edited by TixhiiDon on 15 February 2010 at 6:50am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| ellasevia Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2011 Senior Member Germany Joined 5940 days ago 2150 posts - 3229 votes Speaks: English*, German, Croatian, Greek, French, Spanish, Russian, Swedish, Portuguese, Turkish, Italian Studies: Catalan, Persian, Mandarin, Japanese, Romanian, Ukrainian | Message 10 of 15 15 February 2010 at 4:52pm | IP Logged | ||
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Yes, that sounds useful. But now I am using Anki for exactly that same purpose, which I find to be working very well.
Just for clarification, does it group the the stale words by language or list or anything like that? In my own BYKI, I have my listed very organized according to language and/or language course (for example, I have a section or "language" for Ultimate German and another section/"language" for LiveMocha German 102). 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| kyssäkaali Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5351 days ago 203 posts - 376 votes Speaks: English*, Finnish | Message 11 of 15 15 February 2010 at 5:52pm | IP Logged | ||
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I use BYKI religiously now, but only to create my own lists. I can say that a lot of
the Finnish vocabulary cards that come with it are DEAD wrong, and I didn't realise this until later. I wouldn't be surprised if it's not 100% reliable for other languages as well. I still love the option to create your own flash cards though. Excellent way to cram vocab. Oh, and additionally, I'm not 100% sure as I can't remember that far back for some reason, but I'm pretty sure I developed the ability to pronounce Finnish words entirely from BYKI. I had no idea how to pronounce, for example, the letters Ö and Y until hearing it over and over with the program. Now I've been told by many Finns that my accent is indistinguishable from a native speaker's. So the fact that the program has a native speaker reading out the words and phrases is a huge boost. It just makes me wonder, why didn't the speaker look at some of these cards and point out that they were wrong? Lol! Edited by kyssäkaali on 15 February 2010 at 5:57pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Ocius Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 5388 days ago 48 posts - 77 votes Speaks: English*, German, Ancient Greek Studies: French, Latin, Sanskrit | Message 12 of 15 16 February 2010 at 3:10am | IP Logged | ||
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I've used the express version a bit with some of the pre-made lists and some community
lists. I love it, but unfortunately a 70$ price tag is simply far too much for such a small improvement in usability over the completely free Anki. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| TixhiiDon Tetraglot Senior Member Japan Joined 5262 days ago 772 posts - 1474 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese, German, Russian Studies: Georgian | Message 13 of 15 16 February 2010 at 3:50am | IP Logged | ||
The stale words are grouped according to language but not according to list - all the lists you have studied successfully up to that point are mixed together so that when you review your stale words, words from various different lists appear. I think this is also very useful as it prevents you memorizing whole lists simply in terms of their sequence without really thinking about meaning. I'm gradually noticing in my Georgian version that some words are not really correct, or at least not regularly used in everyday conversation, and the verbs are kind of useless too, as I mentioned above. So Byki is certainly not perfect, but still pretty good I think. Edited by TixhiiDon on 16 February 2010 at 3:51am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Grassmanian Newbie United States Joined 5306 days ago 4 posts - 10 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Latin, French | Message 14 of 15 15 March 2014 at 11:54pm | IP Logged | ||
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I noticed that there is a mobile version of BYKI for $7.99 (per language). My first impression is that this might be a good supplement for someone working toward A1 or A2. The number of languages supported is impressive, and the the supplied files seem to have a reasonable coverage of the A1/A2 level vocabulary with audio read by native speakers. Has anyone had good or bad experiences with this version? 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Bjorn Diglot Senior Member Norway Joined 4666 days ago 244 posts - 286 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, English Studies: German, French | Message 15 of 15 16 March 2014 at 7:29am | IP Logged | ||
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It is ok, some years ago since I used it.
You don't type in the answer, just thinking it out in your head and press Correct or Wrong. However it seems they now have mobile apps, android and ios for Byki Deluxe. Maybe I should unpack my old Byki Deluxe software and try it. Anki Deluxe app android 1 person has voted this message useful |
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