fanatic Octoglot Senior Member Australia speedmathematics.com Joined 7146 days ago 1152 posts - 1818 votes Speaks: English*, German, French, Afrikaans, Italian, Spanish, Russian, Dutch Studies: Swedish, Norwegian, Polish, Modern Hebrew, Malay, Mandarin, Esperanto
| Message 1 of 8 11 January 2006 at 4:40pm | IP Logged |
I was speaking with a man who was selling language courses in a shopping mall. He said his sister had a book teaching Indonesian which was written in English but they kept inserting Indonesian words in the text so you became familiar with them.
As the text progressed, more and more Indonesian words were introduced until by the end of the book you were reading Indonesian, not English.
I am sure I have come across this kind of approach before.
Has anyone had any experience with this method of teaching a language? Did you find it effective? What do the members think of the method?
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patuco Diglot Moderator Gibraltar Joined 7015 days ago 3795 posts - 4268 votes Speaks: Spanish, English* Personal Language Map
| Message 2 of 8 11 January 2006 at 5:04pm | IP Logged |
There's a similar situation in Arabic. Except for Classical texts, Arabic is written without any vowels and the reader is expected to "know" the word from experience. In lots of Arabic textbooks the vowels are included initially, but once the student is beyond the beginner stage, they are removed.
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jeff_lindqvist Diglot Moderator SwedenRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6909 days ago 4250 posts - 5711 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: German, Spanish, Russian, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Irish, French Personal Language Map
| Message 3 of 8 11 January 2006 at 5:54pm | IP Logged |
My dad has an entire series of books - teaching English from Swedish. 50 "classics": Robinson Crusoe, Gulliver's Travels and so on. The first book has maybe one or two English words on each page (Swedish translation at the bottom of the page), and throughout the series more and more words are introduced, building sentences et.c. The last book is written in English (more or less). I suppose it "works", to give an introduction to English literature and reading skills, if nothing else. The books were published by Niloé and the series is called the NU-metoden (the "Now" method). I'm pretty sure that I've seen another 50 classics or so in French.
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Sir Nigel Senior Member United States Joined 7104 days ago 1126 posts - 1102 votes 2 sounds
| Message 4 of 8 12 January 2006 at 1:12am | IP Logged |
I know of one method like that here.
To me this would be rather confusing. I prefer the more standard approaches that give you the target language in its entirety.
I think you could learn by using this method, I just don't see why you really would want to do it this way. It seems more efficient to just be given all the "information" in the target language.
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Qbe Tetraglot Senior Member United States joewright.org/var Joined 7135 days ago 289 posts - 335 votes Speaks: English*, Latin, Ancient Greek, Biblical Hebrew Studies: Japanese, German, Mandarin, Aramaic
| Message 5 of 8 12 January 2006 at 8:46pm | IP Logged |
The book "Japanese in 10 Minutes A Day" does a little of this: it introduces a few Japanese words in the text and explanations of the book and continues to use them in place of English. However, it doesn't do this extensively and this isn't the book's primary method. (Also, I'm going on memory here--haven't seen the book in several months now).
Hey, I'd be willing to try a book like the one you've described. Who knows? It could be fun and might actually work.
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Darobat Diglot Senior Member Joined 7188 days ago 754 posts - 770 votes Speaks: English*, Russian Studies: Latin
| Message 6 of 8 12 January 2006 at 9:25pm | IP Logged |
That kind of reminds me of a method I found for learning Latin entitled Lingua Latina It basically teaches you Latin in with Latin as the only medium. The book is one a bunch of stories that will introduce new words and grammar concepts in such a way that the meaning of the words is self explanatory because of the context. I've heard many good things about this book.
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fanatic Octoglot Senior Member Australia speedmathematics.com Joined 7146 days ago 1152 posts - 1818 votes Speaks: English*, German, French, Afrikaans, Italian, Spanish, Russian, Dutch Studies: Swedish, Norwegian, Polish, Modern Hebrew, Malay, Mandarin, Esperanto
| Message 7 of 8 13 January 2006 at 1:25am | IP Logged |
Darobat wrote:
That kind of reminds me of a method I found for learning Latin entitled Lingua Latina It basically teaches you Latin in with Latin as the only medium. |
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Thank you Darobat for the link. I enjoyed the sample pages and downloaded them. I read the first few pages and found it fun, even though I don't particularly want to learn Latin at the moment. I did download an introduction to Latin that was linked on this forum so I might yet take it up in the future.
It is interesting how many words you can recognize in the text. It is also interesting to note the origin of so many words.
I can see that the method might well be fun to use. I will be lecturing to language teachers and students at two colleges in around two months and I will use some of the sample pages for handouts.
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Farley Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 7092 days ago 681 posts - 739 votes 1 sounds Speaks: English*, GermanB1, French Studies: Spanish
| Message 8 of 8 13 January 2006 at 7:40am | IP Logged |
Darobat wrote:
That kind of reminds me of a method I found for learning Latin entitled Lingua Latina It basically teaches you Latin in with Latin as the only medium. |
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That reminds me, there is a similar series of books by Margarita Madrigal called An Invitation to Spanish.. or French, German, etc. They are long out of print, but you find inexpensive used copies on Amazon. They are not complete courses, but just as the titles imply an -- invitation to the language. They introduce the first 1000+ words and the basics grammar structures.
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