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Johntm
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 Message 9 of 17
31 January 2010 at 2:51am | IP Logged 
neurosport wrote:
Thanks for all the replies so far. Some good information.

I guess I botched my question.

Is there something like Pimsleur for Latin?

One time I tried studying Spanish using a book and never got past about 5 pages.

I guess pronunciation is irrelevant in Latin, yet I know my brain is simply not going to believe that the words I am studying are real unless it hears them. I just don't think it is possible (for me) to learn a language using a book.

As for music, I would need to have translated lyrics. All the online dictionaries are abysmal, I cannot find 9 out of 10 words in them.

Is there a good Latin dictionary that i can pick up? One that would be markedly better than wiktionary, which is what I am using now.

There is this podcast called Latinum. I downloaded it to see if it would help me in my Latin (so I could get by easily without studying), but I never listened to it. There's plenty of lessons, I would try it if I were you.
http://latinum.mypodcast.com/
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 Message 10 of 17
31 January 2010 at 3:14am | IP Logged 
IronFist wrote:
datsunking1 wrote:

Try a "Teach Yourself" course. I've seen them in bookstores for Latin and they are pretty thick. (300 pages) I'm not sure if there are many materials out there, but I would check your local bookstore and amazon.com. Most book stores always have a latin section. I found Green Eggs and Ham in Latin in Barnes and Noble once :D

Best of luck!
Jordan


For what it's worth, the "Teach Yourself" course for Korean was pretty bad.

I have no idea how they are for other languages, however. They might be brilliant. Most Korean courses tend to be pretty awful.

Check out amazon.com reviews, I guess.


Yes, Teach Yourself courses are "hit or miss" nowadays lol I've heard the Russian one was really good, and the Portuguese one would make better firewood than educational material. I thinking about purchasing the Russian one myself in the jfuture. I'll be sure to let other members know how it is. :)

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neurosport
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 Message 11 of 17
31 January 2010 at 3:19am | IP Logged 
Johntm wrote:
http://latinum.mypodcast.com/


This "podcast" made me seriously angry.

How hard would it have been for him to also post the text along with the audio?

Also, wouldn't it make more sense to say the translation before Latin?

I have no words (that are fit to print) to describe how i feel about his "work" there.

The stress of fuming over it has shortened my life enough already. I hope i never see it again.

As Nietzsche said "It is not so much the suffering as the senselessness of it that is unendurable."

He makes a good case for Eugenics.

Edited by neurosport on 31 January 2010 at 3:26am

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canada38
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 Message 12 of 17
31 January 2010 at 12:42pm | IP Logged 
Johntm wrote:
In my Latin class we used some things from the Wheelock book, I didn't
like it much, but I don't like the textbook approach to language learning.


I very much agree with you, that language learning through a textbook is not a
preferable method. I tried to learn Italian that way, and it was of little use. One
point worth noting however, is the difference between Wheelock and most other
textbooks. For example, in the Spanish class that I am taking, we have discussed the
following chapters from the textbook: colours, numbers, time/date, the family,
appliances and rooms, food, and restaurants. While the grammar introduced is excellent,
on my trip to Spain this summer, I highly doubt I'll need to say, "My cousin's
godfather has a toaster that is 1,764,643,245 times better than the one in your
kitchen." An extreme example, but my point is that the vocabulary in textbooks is
usually categorized and simple, but not overly useful, and with too much emphasis on
numbers past 100. On the contrary, Wheelock introduces a wide variety of terms every
chapter, most of which have nothing to do with each other (except of course many words
are associated with things of the past, i.e. sword, horse, Senate, etc. but this is to
be expected with Latin)

neurosport wrote:
I guess pronunciation is irrelevant in Latin, yet I know my brain is
simply not going to believe that the words I am studying are real unless it hears them.
I just don't think it is possible (for me) to learn a language using a book.


Just some brain-storming here, but I wonder if some Italian resources may be helpful to
you. Movies or other audio produced for the Italian market, but in Latin. I don't know
if these exist, but I assume the study of Latin there is more common than in other
countries. You could also go to the local Catholic church, I'm sure the priest wouldn't
mind directing you to some good resources.

Edit: I pressed Post by accident before I had finished writing.

Edited by canada38 on 31 January 2010 at 1:18pm

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 Message 13 of 17
31 January 2010 at 3:32pm | IP Logged 
Neurosport , try this  English-latin site

latinforum.org

Latin and everything related to it. Online Latin language discussion.

Or you can try also http://latino.logosdictionary.org/preslatino.htm

is a latin-italian course done by students

if you don't understand Italian glossary when you study it

then go to      http://glossaries.logo s.it   

here you'll find 1270 glossarues .ciao
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 Message 14 of 17
31 January 2010 at 5:34pm | IP Logged 
News in Latin: http://www.yleradio1.fi/nuntii/

Asterix in Latin: http://www.amazon.com/Asterix-Gallus-Latin-Rene-Goscinny/dp/ 0828849412/ref=pd_sim_b_1
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 Message 15 of 17
31 January 2010 at 9:12pm | IP Logged 
neurosport wrote:
Johntm wrote:
http://latinum.mypodcast.com/


This "podcast" made me seriously angry.

How hard would it have been for him to also post the text along with the audio?

Also, wouldn't it make more sense to say the translation before Latin?

I have no words (that are fit to print) to describe how i feel about his "work" there.

The stress of fuming over it has shortened my life enough already. I hope i never see it again.

As Nietzsche said "It is not so much the suffering as the senselessness of it that is unendurable."

He makes a good case for Eugenics.

Sorry for shortening your life lol. Like I said, I never tried it, and I guess I won't now.

Edited by Johntm on 31 January 2010 at 9:17pm

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 Message 16 of 17
01 February 2010 at 2:05pm | IP Logged 
The Latinum podcast contains a complete course, from very basic, right up to very
advanced.
You are supposed to read the textbook,(Currently three textbooks are available in audio
- Adler, D'Ooge, and Underwood) and then listen to the audio.

Obviously, listening to the audio without looking at the textbook first is not going to
work very well - but for Adler, actually, you don't need the textbook.
Nor do you need it for the Vestibulum - where sentences in the beginning are only 2
words long, and yes, they are given Latin-English-Latin, but even a 6 year old can cope
with that - as the text was written for 6 year olds.

The Adler course is used by thousands of people, and many of those are now starting to
aquire ability to speak Latin.

Latinum is a very complex site - as over half a dozen textbooks are now offered on it
as audio books. You need to read the user manual carefully before starting the course.

The method of Latin-English-Latin is deliberate. Your brain will collect the
grammatical information.

I am curious, where did you start listening? Did you read the extensive FAQ first, that
explains how to use the material? Obviously, if you jump into a 5 year course - which
is what Latinum is - in the wrong place, you're not going to be very happy.

http://latinum.mypodcast.com




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