brandon Tetraglot Groupie United States Joined 6858 days ago 54 posts - 55 votes Speaks: English*, German, Spanish, French Studies: Dutch, Swedish, Italian
| Message 1 of 12 03 March 2010 at 2:47am | IP Logged |
Hi all,
I decided to review Spanish and French grammar, but didn't want to get confused with studying the Subjunctive tense/mood simultaneously. I wanted to see if there were any different uses between the languages. So far, I have these examples of different uses:
espérer vs. esperar
espérer does not use the subjunctive while esperar does.
Are there any other examples of differences you know of? Thank you!
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Spiderkat Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5623 days ago 175 posts - 248 votes Speaks: French*, English Studies: Russian
| Message 2 of 12 03 March 2010 at 5:10pm | IP Logged |
brandon wrote:
Hi all,
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espérer vs. esperar
espérer does not use the subjunctive while esperar does.
Are there any other examples of differences you know of? Thank you! |
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Just one question. What do you mean by espérer does not use the subjunctive?
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Cabaire Senior Member Germany Joined 5410 days ago 725 posts - 1352 votes
| Message 3 of 12 04 March 2010 at 2:19pm | IP Logged |
What do you mean by espérer does not use the subjunctive?
J'espère que c'est bon maintenant. (not *soit)
Espero que vengas (not *vienes)
A main difference are for example if-clauses. Modern French uses indicative, Spanish subjunctive.
Si j'étais resté en France, je n'aurais pas eu toutes ces difficultés.
Si tú fueras yo, también estarías triste.
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Ajijic10 Diglot Senior Member Mexico Joined 6726 days ago 161 posts - 210 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish
| Message 4 of 12 04 March 2010 at 5:22pm | IP Logged |
Cabaire wrote:
What do you mean by espérer does not use the subjunctive?
A main difference are for example if-clauses. Modern French uses indicative, Spanish subjunctive.
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Not always.
Si Juan viene, traerá los libros.
Si tengo tiempo mañana, iré a la playa.
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TheBiscuit Tetraglot Senior Member Mexico Joined 5734 days ago 532 posts - 619 votes Speaks: English*, French, Spanish, Italian Studies: German, Croatian
| Message 5 of 12 09 March 2010 at 6:02am | IP Logged |
Si tuviera tiempo lo haría.
Si j'avais le temps je le ferais.
Si hubiera tenido tiempo lo hubiera hecho.
Si j'avais eu le temps je l'aurais fait.
I can't think of any others off the top of my head. I don't think there are that many instances where they differ that much.
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brandon Tetraglot Groupie United States Joined 6858 days ago 54 posts - 55 votes Speaks: English*, German, Spanish, French Studies: Dutch, Swedish, Italian
| Message 6 of 12 10 March 2010 at 5:07am | IP Logged |
I may be wrong on this, but I think I read somewhere that in Spanish, the subjunctive can be used with si-clauses when referring to a future event...
Using an example from above:
Si yo tenga tiempo mañana, iré a la playa.
Is this right at all? Or maybe it was 'aunque' that uses subjunctive when referring to a future event?
Iré a la playa aunque no tenga tiempo. (?)
Just recall reading somewhere that when referring to future events, Spanish sometimes uses the subjunctive. I can't find this anywhere, so perhaps I misread it or it was simply wrong. Thoughts?
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tractor Tetraglot Senior Member Norway Joined 5264 days ago 1349 posts - 2292 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, English, Spanish, Catalan Studies: French, German, Latin
| Message 7 of 12 10 March 2010 at 9:13am | IP Logged |
The present subjunctive can never be used after si. You have to say: Si (yo) tengo tiempo ...
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brandon Tetraglot Groupie United States Joined 6858 days ago 54 posts - 55 votes Speaks: English*, German, Spanish, French Studies: Dutch, Swedish, Italian
| Message 8 of 12 15 March 2010 at 4:58am | IP Logged |
Good to know.
It's 'aunque' that takes subjunctive.
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