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| Ajijic10 Diglot Senior Member Mexico Joined 6735 days ago 161 posts - 210 votes  Speaks: English*, Spanish | Message 9 of 12 16 March 2010 at 5:43pm | IP Logged | ||
Not always. If stating a fact, or a known outcome, the indicative is used. If not, the subjunctive. Lo haré, aunque a ella no le gusta. I’ll do it, even though she doesn’t like it. Lo haré, aunque a ella no le guste. I’ll do it, even though she may not like it. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
 Hencke Tetraglot Moderator Spain Joined 6714 days ago 2340 posts - 2444 votes Speaks: Swedish*, Finnish, EnglishC2, Spanish Studies: Mandarin Personal Language Map | Message 10 of 12 18 March 2010 at 12:28pm | IP Logged | ||
You might have read this in connection with "cuando". For "cuando" plus a specific action in the future you must use the subjuntive. And it's the same thing with "en cuanto", and probably a few other typical cases that I can't remember right now. Llámame cuando llegues a casa. De acuerdo, en cuanto llegue te daré un toque. Using the indicative after cuando is also possible, but there it is not specifically about the future, and this construction often takes on a meaning similar to "whenever". Cuando oigo esta canción recuerdo mi infancia. As said above, after "si" the present subjunctive is always wrong, but you can have the conditional/imperfect subjunctive: Si fuera rico, me compraría este coche. 3 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| TheBiscuit Tetraglot Senior Member Mexico Joined 5743 days ago 532 posts - 619 votes Speaks: English*, French, Spanish, Italian Studies: German, Croatian | Message 11 of 12 25 March 2010 at 5:33am | IP Logged | ||
But you can say no sé si tenga and things like that in Mexico. Probably not in Spain though. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| furrykef Senior Member United States furrykef.com/ Joined 6292 days ago 681 posts - 862 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Japanese, Latin, Italian | Message 12 of 12 12 April 2010 at 2:06am | IP Logged | ||
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Here's one, between Spanish and Italian rather than Spanish and French: verbs of belief take the subjunctive in Italian, but they only take the subjunctive when expressing a lack of belief in Spanish.
Spanish: Creo que Marco tiene mucho dinero. (indic.) No creo que Marco tenga mucho dinero. (subjun.) Dudo que Marco tenga mucho dinero. (subjun.) No dudo que Marco tiene mucho dinero. (indic.) Italian: Credo che Marco abbia molto denaro. (subjun.) Non credo che Marco abbia molto denaro. (subjun.) Dubito che Marco abbia molto denaro. (subjun.) Non dubito che Marco ha/abbia molto denaro. (either) As you can see, in Italian, "non dubito" can take either form. Apparently colloquial Italian sometimes uses the indicative for the others, too, but I'm still a beginner in Italian, so I don't know the details. (In fact, I had to look up the subjunctive form of "avere"!) And, interestingly enough, Classical Latin doesn't use the indicative or subjunctive at all in such sentences, instead using the infinitive: Crēdō Mārcum habēre multam pecūniam. Literally, "I believe Marcus to have a lot of money." I have no idea what French does with these constructions, so if somebody wants to chime in, be my guest. :) Edited by furrykef on 12 April 2010 at 7:59am 1 person has voted this message useful |
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