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| matthieu Diglot Newbie France Joined 5862 days ago 5 posts - 6 votes Speaks: French*, EnglishC2 Studies: German, Korean | Message 25 of 73 04 April 2010 at 9:50pm | IP Logged | ||
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Thank you for the inspiration "irishpolyglot". I've been in Berlin for 3 months now and, sadly, I have achieved very little fluency. Agreed, the main reason I'm here is not learning the language like you, but I haven't really put enough effort in speaking German (speaking English is so convenient!)... Your goal and techniques seem interesting and I will try and apply them during the time I have left here.
I wish you all the best for your project, Matthieu PS @ those who think reaching too high is unreasonnable: “Shoot for the moon and if you miss you will still be among the stars.” :p 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| ruskivyetr Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5261 days ago 769 posts - 962 votes  Speaks: English*, German Studies: Spanish, Russian, Polish, Modern Hebrew | Message 26 of 73 04 April 2010 at 10:06pm | IP Logged | ||
Du musst die Ganze zeit auf Englisch nicht schreiben. In seinem Log, man kann auf seine Sprache schreiben :). Zum Beispiel, ich schreibe auf Russisch, Deutsch, (und im Futur) auf Georgisch. Und ja, du kannst mit deinen Freunden sprechen, aber sie werden dich nicht korrigieren. Hier können die Deutschsprecher dich korrigieren, und dann dein Deutsch wird besser sein (man hofft). Aber es ist was du machen möchtest so es gibt kein Problem mit Schreiben nur auf Englisch :). Edited by ruskivyetr on 05 April 2010 at 11:32am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| irishpolyglot Nonaglot Senior Member Ireland fluentin3months Joined 5413 days ago 285 posts - 892 votes Speaks: Irish, English*, French, Esperanto, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, German, Sign Language Studies: Mandarin | Message 27 of 73 06 April 2010 at 11:33am | IP Logged | ||
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This language log has been a great idea! I decided to edit the above messages I wrote into a blog post. I'll continue to update here on occasion too though :)
@matthieu Thanks for the support! Speaking German is ALSO convenient in Berlin :P :P Hopefully my suggestions will help you! @ruskivyetr Danke! Aber meine Freunde haben mich korrigiert und ich habe viel gelernt! Ich brauche Hilfe zuerst mit meiner gesprochenen Deutsch :) 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| scop Diglot Groupie Ireland Joined 5629 days ago 70 posts - 73 votes Speaks: English*, Irish Studies: German, Ancient Greek | Message 28 of 73 07 April 2010 at 1:24am | IP Logged | ||
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Great stuff. I'm moving to Freiburg in October so if you pull this off I have no excuses! Great to see you have your Irish too - always a source of trouble for me personally but common among us Dubs as I am sure you know ;)
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| irishpolyglot Nonaglot Senior Member Ireland fluentin3months Joined 5413 days ago 285 posts - 892 votes Speaks: Irish, English*, French, Esperanto, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, German, Sign Language Studies: Mandarin | Message 29 of 73 08 April 2010 at 10:43am | IP Logged | ||
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@scop Freiburg is GORGEOUS. I was in Germany briefly before (although everything I did was in English back then), and I had a very brief internship in Freiburg. You'll love it! Edited by irishpolyglot on 08 April 2010 at 2:31pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| irishpolyglot Nonaglot Senior Member Ireland fluentin3months Joined 5413 days ago 285 posts - 892 votes Speaks: Irish, English*, French, Esperanto, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, German, Sign Language Studies: Mandarin | Message 30 of 73 08 April 2010 at 11:10am | IP Logged | ||
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WEEK 2: Making a big sacrifice for the project *********** I have to say that I was very pleased with what I had achieved in my first 6 days! I had gotten over my discomfort to speak and I was speaking all the German I knew and maintaining pretty decent varied levels of conversation using various "language hacking" techniques that I've picked up over the years, despite a very limited range of vocabulary. Keeping up this momentum will be crucial if I am to reach my initial goals, and that's why plateaus have to be admitted and eliminated. This week is such a plateau! The first friend that visited me was perfect; patient enough to listen to me, yet no-B.S. enough to frankly tell me almost every single mistake that I was making, and it was kept up over days! I learned a huge amount in those days. But not everyone can be like that and this week from the friend currently visiting me I am getting no corrections at all (and I can even *feel* the mistakes constantly coming out of me!) So apart from keeping up the rate of speaking regularly, I have not learned much since Sunday. This is reinforced by my need to work during the day (since I had taken my first week off for Easter). If the rest of my stay were to be similar to this week then I will have achieved only a marginal improvement in my German and will be very far from what I had initially aimed for. Some people reach the stage of being able to say "something" and simply stay there. I've seen it happen with expats hundreds of times. Well, not me! I have been thinking long and hard and I am going to have to make some sacrifices if I want this to work out. My current plan of full time work, plus trying to write a book, plus studying German, plus practising it, plus later preparing for the C2 exam is just not realistic. There really aren't enough hours in the day. Something has to give. So after this weekend I'm going to block translation work for the rest of the month (temporarily, and then I'll see about May). Writing my book will at least be somewhat of a financial investment that will have to balance out lack of work. If I can release the guide next month then it should fill the financial gap left by not translating technical documents over the coming weeks. I tend to work 10-12 hours a day as a translator (freelance and choosing your own hours unfortunately leads to accepting as much work as possible, i.e. too much), but I could reduce this to 6 hours a day as a writer and that would give me the time needed for the purposes of this project. This is a big sacrifice, because if things don't go well with the book, my current credit card debt will just get worse. But I am going to take this risk. Is this particular post relevant to language learning? Definitely. Learning a language isn't just about grammar and vocabulary, but adapting your life in many ways to making it a part of your day and making sacrifices. I'm serious about this goal, so I have to make some hard choices for it to be realistic. "The policy of being too cautious is the greatest risk of all." Jawaharlal Nehru (1889 - 1964) 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
 Fasulye Heptaglot Winner TAC 2012 Moderator Germany fasulyespolyglotblog Joined 5627 days ago 5460 posts - 6006 votes 1 sounds Speaks: German*, DutchC1, EnglishB2, French, Italian, Spanish, Esperanto Studies: Latin, Danish, Norwegian, Turkish Personal Language Map | Message 31 of 73 08 April 2010 at 5:56pm | IP Logged | ||
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Ich bin auch recht kommunikativ und neuen Kontakten gegenüber aufgeschlossen, aber ich würde in einer fremden Stadt nicht so schnell Kontakte knüpfen und ausbauen können wie du.
Es ist mit schon klar, dass man so ein 3-Monats-Projekt finanzieren muss. Wenn du gleichzeitig arbeiten musst in Berlin, dann kann es zum Stressfaktor werden. Ich wünsche dir viele Sprechmöglichkeiten für die deutsche Sprache! Eine Zeitung zu lesen könnte vielleicht auch nützlich sein. Viel Erfolg! Fasulye Edited by Fasulye on 08 April 2010 at 5:58pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| irishpolyglot Nonaglot Senior Member Ireland fluentin3months Joined 5413 days ago 285 posts - 892 votes Speaks: Irish, English*, French, Esperanto, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, German, Sign Language Studies: Mandarin | Message 32 of 73 09 April 2010 at 9:48am | IP Logged | ||
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@Fasulye
Danke!! :) Das habe ich schon 40 Mal gemacht :P Welche Zeitung würdet besser? Ich habe jeden Tag eine Zeitung auf Portugiesisch in Rio gelesen und die hat mir geholfen! Edited by irishpolyglot on 09 April 2010 at 9:49am 1 person has voted this message useful |
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