Beth121 Newbie United States Joined 5103 days ago 5 posts - 8 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Esperanto, French
| Message 1 of 14 15 May 2010 at 3:45am | IP Logged |
I'm interested in learning Turkish, but am unsure of where to start, other than using Pimsleur (I already have Level 1.) Can someone suggest any other materials/websites that they've used?
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LatinoBoy84 Bilingual Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 5371 days ago 443 posts - 603 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish*, French Studies: Russian, Portuguese, Latvian
| Message 2 of 14 15 May 2010 at 4:58am | IP Logged |
FSI has a rather good course page=Turkish">Turkish Basic
Assimil has a course for Turkish (in French),
Teach Yourself Turkish, seems to be one of the better Teach Yourself books.
The University of Arizona's Critical Language Series covers three years of language study
Critical Language Series
DLI also has a course, but I don't remember where to download it at the moment.
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BartoG Diglot Senior Member United States confession Joined 5243 days ago 292 posts - 818 votes Speaks: English*, French Studies: Italian, Spanish, Latin, Uzbek
| Message 3 of 14 15 May 2010 at 11:04pm | IP Logged |
You can find the DLI familiarization course by going here:
http://how-to-learn-any-language.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?T ID=16633&PN=1&TPN=2
(remove any spaces in the URL, no audio, though, sorry)
LatinoBoy84 is also right about the FSI course. If you want to purchase something though, you might try Routledge's Colloquial Turkish, which has a lot of content. I'd steer clear of the TY Beginner's Course, which at least starts out telling you a lot about Turkish but not really exposing you to it as much.
Depending on your level of French, you might try Assimil's Le Turc sans peine. However, I'd advise that I didn't find the dialogs as engaging as those found in, say, the Spanish or Italian courses. Still, it's lots of Turkish to read.
Best of luck
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Sierra Diglot Senior Member Turkey livinginlights.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6920 days ago 296 posts - 411 votes Speaks: English*, SwedishB1 Studies: Turkish
| Message 4 of 14 16 May 2010 at 5:29am | IP Logged |
http://www.masaldinle.com/ has a lot of easy fairy tales in Turkish- some even have
audio.
I'm also using Teach Yourself Turkish and while it's not really a stand-alone, it does a
good job of explaining the grammar.
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dolly Senior Member United States Joined 5586 days ago 191 posts - 376 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Latin
| Message 5 of 14 16 May 2010 at 5:51am | IP Logged |
Elementary Turkish (textbook)
Turkish Flashcards
Turkish - English Short Stories Series (Dual-language texts)
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William Camden Hexaglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6068 days ago 1936 posts - 2333 votes Speaks: English*, German, Spanish, Russian, Turkish, French
| Message 6 of 14 16 May 2010 at 4:10pm | IP Logged |
I have mentioned this before, but FSI Basic Turkish uses a good deal of obsolete vocabulary (the course is dated 1966, and I am convinced some of the words they cite were going out of use even then).
When I get a chance, I will post a list of the FSI words I consider obsolete, with more modern equivalents that should be used instead.
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William Camden Hexaglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6068 days ago 1936 posts - 2333 votes Speaks: English*, German, Spanish, Russian, Turkish, French
| Message 7 of 14 17 May 2010 at 3:05pm | IP Logged |
(Edited to make minor correction, add extra note and improve presentation)
To save time, as my computer time is limited today, I won't bother with the Turkish diacritics, but here are the words in FSI I think are obsolete, in bold letters, and some alternative suggestions I think more common/current on the right in italics, separated by a dash. I have put an asterisk next to the ones I think are still used but less common than the equivalents on the right:
Allahismarladik - gorusuruz
*estagfarullah - bir sey degil
evvela - ilk olarak
ne gezer! - (I have never heard this expression and can't think of an equivalent. According to FSI, it means "not likely!")
kafi - yeter
konsoloshane - konsolosluk, also given by FSI
*mani olmak - engellemek
postahane - postane, also given by FSI
sefarethane - buyukelcilik, also given by FSI
tehir, tehirli - gec, gec kalmis
*teneffus - mola
tevekkili degil - surpriz degil
umum, umumi, umumiyetle - first two are more commonly kamu, while the last is more commonly genel olarak
yazihane - ofis
zevce - es
zevc - es
Further comments or corrections would be welcome. There were not actually as many hopelessly outdated words and phrases as I first thought, though anyone using FSI Basic Turkish would be wise to supplement it with a more up-to-date course.
The replaced words are often though not always of Arabic origin. The replacements may be Turkish, may be neologisms or may even come from West European languages, like ofis.
Edited by William Camden on 19 May 2010 at 12:35pm
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!LH@N Triglot Senior Member Germany Joined 6617 days ago 487 posts - 531 votes Speaks: German, Turkish*, English Studies: Serbo-Croatian, Spanish
| Message 8 of 14 20 May 2010 at 1:07am | IP Logged |
William, all the words you wrote here, with the exception of konsoloshane and sefarethane, are used in Turkish and are considered integral for a "higher"/educated use of the language.
Estagfurullah and Allahismarladik are used regularly in colloquial speech, too.
Regards,
Ilhan
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