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William Camden
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 Message 9 of 14
20 May 2010 at 2:33pm | IP Logged 
!LH@N wrote:
William, all the words you wrote here, with the exception of konsoloshane and sefarethane, are used in Turkish and are considered integral for a "higher"/educated use of the language.
Estagfurullah and Allahismarladik are used regularly in colloquial speech, too.

Regards,
Ilhan


Perhaps they are used. However, in most cases I have never heard them used in spoken language. Zevc/zevce I know, but I happen to be studying Arabic, and these words are very common in Arabic for "husband" and "wife". I have never heard them used in spoken Turkish, however, and I don't think I have ever seen them on the printed page, even in Turkish-language books published decades ago.
It may be that many of these words are in use in "higher" Turkish. However, this is supposed to be a "basic" course.
Allahismarladik was in the Hugo Turkish in Three Months textbook I first used to learn the language. The trouble is, none of the Turkish speakers I have encountered actually use it.
Turkish changed more than most languages in the 20th century, of course, mainly because of the language reform started in 1928.
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!LH@N
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 Message 10 of 14
20 May 2010 at 2:37pm | IP Logged 
I don't know about your Turkish friends, but I can tell you that Allahismarladik is regularly used in Turkish, especially in basic Turkish.
I wouldn't worry about FSI using ancient vocabulary, because anyway if one is intelligent and wants to sound like that, too, he/she can learn those words from the beginning.

Regards,
Ilhan
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William Camden
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 Message 11 of 14
21 May 2010 at 2:58pm | IP Logged 
I asked a Turkish friend about Allahismarladik. In her view, it is a term favoured by religious people. Few of the ones I know are particularly religious, so that may explain why I never hear it used, whereas I hear gorusuruz all the time.
As to ancient vocabulary, someone using jocund in English would definitely be considered odd, if they did not know the far more common word cheerful.
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Beth121
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 Message 12 of 14
22 May 2010 at 8:01pm | IP Logged 
Thank you for all of the advice -- I just have a couple more questions. Which edition of Ty Turkish do you recommend, as I have found sites selling previous editions, dating back to 1992. Also, is Elementary Turkish a good book to use? I especially ask because almost all the editions I've seen start at $35, and I want to make sure that it's worth the money before I buy.

Thank you again for all the advice!
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dolly
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 Message 13 of 14
22 May 2010 at 8:26pm | IP Logged 
Beth121 wrote:
Thank you for all of the advice -- I just have a couple more questions. Which edition of Ty Turkish do you recommend, as I have found sites selling previous editions, dating back to 1992. Also, is Elementary Turkish a good book to use? I especially ask because almost all the editions I've seen start at $35, and I want to make sure that it's worth the money before I buy.

Thank you again for all the advice!

I haven't started Öztopçu's Elementary Turkish (2nd revised edition) yet, but I've listened to some of the audio and in some places the sound quality isn't really good. But this is definitely the text I'll use when I'm done with the Pimsleur lessons. It seems comprehensive, contemporary and quite user-friendly to me.
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 Message 14 of 14
23 May 2010 at 5:25pm | IP Logged 
Oh I forgot there is also an FSI/DLI Headstart course.


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