Silvance5 Groupie United States Joined 5289 days ago 86 posts - 118 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Spanish, French
| Message 9 of 18 21 May 2010 at 7:59pm | IP Logged |
It's most likely bootleg, and since that in itself is illegal you'd be better off just torrenting it illegally. Both are dishonest and both are illegal
That said, Rosetta Stone isn't worth $150, much less $450. There are far better products for your money.
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Splog Diglot Senior Member Czech Republic anthonylauder.c Joined 5464 days ago 1062 posts - 3263 votes Speaks: English*, Czech Studies: Mandarin
| Message 10 of 18 21 May 2010 at 8:29pm | IP Logged |
Delodephius wrote:
I think I'll never understand western need to buy legitimately. I guess it's a cultural thing. |
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Your comment reminds me of a documentary I once saw about a small software company in Russia. They said they never bought things legitimately, they bought illegal versions of MS Windows and various software applications from a local market for a fraction of the legitimate price. This meant they could start up their own company very cheaply. They seemed mighty proud of this.
Some months later the documentary showed the managers of this software company in an angry meeting. It turns out that illegal copies of their own products were now for sale at the local market, and nobody was willing to buy a legitimate version from them. Naturally, the company soon stopped existing.
And in this story is the reason why I and many others prefer to buy things legally.
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Ubik Senior Member United States ubykh.wordpress.com/ Joined 5111 days ago 147 posts - 176 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Latin, Arabic (Egyptian), German, Spanish
| Message 11 of 18 21 May 2010 at 8:47pm | IP Logged |
Splog wrote:
Your comment reminds me of a documentary I once saw about a small software company in Russia. They said they never bought things legitimately, they bought illegal versions of MS Windows and various software applications from a local market for a fraction of the legitimate price. This meant they could start up their own company very cheaply. They seemed mighty proud of this.
Some months later the documentary showed the managers of this software company in an angry meeting. It turns out that illegal copies of their own products were now for sale at the local market, and nobody was willing to buy a legitimate version from them. Naturally, the company soon stopped existing.
And in this story is the reason why I and many others prefer to buy things legally. |
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Sounds like the workings of a modern day Aesop's fable
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datsunking1 Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5380 days ago 1014 posts - 1533 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: German, Russian, Dutch, French
| Message 12 of 18 22 May 2010 at 1:19am | IP Logged |
Silvance5 wrote:
It's most likely bootleg, and since that in itself is illegal you'd be better off just torrenting it illegally. Both are dishonest and both are illegal
That said, Rosetta Stone isn't worth $150, much less $450. There are far better products for your money. |
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this. I wouldn't use rosetta stone if it were free. That's how bad the program is.
If it included
Translations
Grammar Guide and Explanations
A Vocabulary Guide
Dictionary
Then I would consider it
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Chris Heptaglot Senior Member Japan Joined 6916 days ago 287 posts - 452 votes Speaks: English*, Russian, Indonesian, French, Malay, Japanese, Spanish Studies: Dutch, Korean, Mongolian
| Message 13 of 18 22 May 2010 at 5:18am | IP Logged |
Allison, I'd do a search on the forum for Rosetta Stone first, before you even think of purchasing it. Most seasoned language learners on here think it's junk! You can get so much more for your money! Try Fluenz or Rocket Chinese instead! Rocket Chinese has similar software to that which Rosetta Stone offers as part of the package, and it actually tells you what you are saying.
I wouldn't use Rosetta Stone if you gave me a copy!
In my opinion, the real scam is the method itself!
EDIT: Posts merged. Please refrain from double posting in future. Thanks.
Edited by patuco on 22 May 2010 at 10:29pm
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patuco Diglot Moderator Gibraltar Joined 6810 days ago 3795 posts - 4268 votes Speaks: Spanish, English* Personal Language Map
| Message 14 of 18 22 May 2010 at 10:27pm | IP Logged |
I'd like to reiterate the opinions of other posters above me who mention that you should think about an alternative to Rosetta Stone. I'd prefer just about any method over RS.
As to buying from dodgy dealers, let me tell you what happened to me about six or seven years ago:
Before I knew how useless RS is, I bought a second-hand copy from eBay...or at least that's what I thought at the time. I never received anything (after paying £240 for two full courses) and I never recovered my money. I later discovered that the discs were copies and this seller had been doing the same thing for a while to other naive eBayers. Needless to say, I wised up pretty quickly about the prevalence of piracy and since then, I've been a bit suspicious of anything that I can't physically pick up and examine (with certain exceptions for Amazon) and I've never used eBay again.
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datsunking1 Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5380 days ago 1014 posts - 1533 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: German, Russian, Dutch, French
| Message 15 of 18 23 May 2010 at 1:04am | IP Logged |
patuco wrote:
I'd like to reiterate the opinions of other posters above me who mention that you should think about an alternative to Rosetta Stone. I'd prefer just about any method over RS.
As to buying from dodgy dealers, let me tell you what happened to me about six or seven years ago:
Before I knew how useless RS is, I bought a second-hand copy from eBay...or at least that's what I thought at the time. I never received anything (after paying £240 for two full courses) and I never recovered my money. I later discovered that the discs were copies and this seller had been doing the same thing for a while to other naive eBayers. Needless to say, I wised up pretty quickly about the prevalence of piracy and since then, I've been a bit suspicious of anything that I can't physically pick up and examine (with certain exceptions for Amazon) and I've never used eBay again. |
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I'm sorry about the loss, 240 pounds is quite a lot of money (in my opinion) I would be very angry.
I tend to stay away from ebay (and Paypal) for that matter.
Amazon.com is probably my #1 shopping site :D
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Delodephius Bilingual Tetraglot Senior Member Yugoslavia Joined 5198 days ago 342 posts - 501 votes Speaks: Slovak*, Serbo-Croatian*, EnglishC1, Czech Studies: Russian, Japanese
| Message 16 of 18 23 May 2010 at 2:44am | IP Logged |
Splog wrote:
Delodephius wrote:
I think I'll never understand western need to buy legitimately. I guess it's a cultural thing. |
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Your comment reminds me of a documentary I once saw about a small software company in Russia. They said they never bought things legitimately, they bought illegal versions of MS Windows and various software applications from a local market for a fraction of the legitimate price. This meant they could start up their own company very cheaply. They seemed mighty proud of this.
Some months later the documentary showed the managers of this software company in an angry meeting. It turns out that illegal copies of their own products were now for sale at the local market, and nobody was willing to buy a legitimate version from them. Naturally, the company soon stopped existing.
And in this story is the reason why I and many others prefer to buy things legally. |
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The thing is if I paid for every software I have on my computer it would take me several decades to earn the money... here in my country. I got the whole Rosetta Stone Chinese course by downloading it from the internet for just the cost of my internet connection, which is ~15$ a month. If I had to pay for the course by purchasing it from a legitimate vendor, and there is no one selling Rosetta Stone where I live and buying anything from abroad costs even more, for +500$ I would have to find a better job and pay 3 whole month salaries. I never considered honesty a virtue, just a manner, not when I am unable to buy things people in the developed countries have at greatly lower prices. If something is just expensive for you know that is almost unobtainable for people like, and so we use other methods.
Living in such a world people developed a different view on things. So in the end it turns out to be a cultural thing.
Edited by Delodephius on 23 May 2010 at 2:47am
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