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LangOfChildren Tetraglot Groupie Germany Joined 5186 days ago 82 posts - 141 votes Speaks: German*, English, French, Swedish Studies: Mandarin, Japanese, Thai, Russian
| Message 17 of 19 01 September 2010 at 8:43pm | IP Logged |
Arekkusu wrote:
I'm really surprised a native speaker would say that. I spent a month in Germany in 1991 and I was pretty fluent; I stayed around Düsseldorf and I would hear this all the time, from young and old. I never noticed any kind of stigma to it. |
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It's only my personal oppinion, nothing that should be taken as a universal truth or anything. In general, I tend to be a bit sensitive when it comes to the way my mother tongue is spoken. I cringe when certain recurring grammar mistakes are made, for instance. Not even because of linguistic purism, it's just a feeling I naturally have towards my language and I can't exactly pinpoint where it's coming from. I also grew up in Berlin, and people here speak differently from people in the south obviously. Using definite articles before names is not something that was usual in Berlin. The only time I would hear it, is when someone was speaking to children or rather, when speaking about children in front of children, which is why I think this use of articles sounds like "speaking to kids" to me. It's all oppinion though, so don't worry about it :)
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| Spanky Senior Member Canada Joined 5715 days ago 1021 posts - 1714 votes Studies: French
| Message 18 of 19 02 September 2010 at 12:11am | IP Logged |
This phenomenon spread briefly to America in the 1950s. Anyone remember "The Fonz"? Anyone? Okay, I am probably dating myself with this.
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| Doitsujin Diglot Senior Member Germany Joined 5079 days ago 1256 posts - 2363 votes Speaks: German*, English
| Message 19 of 19 02 September 2010 at 12:17am | IP Logged |
LangOfChildren wrote:
I also grew up in Berlin, and people here speak differently from people in the south obviously. Using definite articles before names is not something that was usual in Berlin. |
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I'm a Berliner, too and agree with LangOfChildren. Using an articles before names seems to be phenomenon restricted to some regions in Germany. In some ways this is similar to saying "Samstag" instead of "Sonnabend" or "viertel vor sechs" instead of "drei viertel sechs" for 17:45 (5:45pm).
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