Putter Newbie Canada Joined 5368 days ago 5 posts - 5 votes Speaks: English*
| Message 1 of 6 30 June 2010 at 8:28pm | IP Logged |
I've recently started learning/refreshing my French, and while I've struggled with some pronounciations (such as "R" which I have got somewhat of a handle on now) I can't for the life of me figure out how to properly pronounce the ending "-ble". I mean this in the sense of words such as "comfortable" and similar words.
My problem is that while in English the ending sounds like "bul" or something like "com-fort-ah-bul," whereas in French as far as I can tell from listening, these words sort of end in more of a hint of B and L. When I try to pronounce it in French it always comes out like "com-for-TAH-bleh" and sounds really awful. I can't seem to rid myself of this "BLEH" sound and do that softer B+L sound of French speakers. My mouth seems to want to separate these two letters into their own separate syllable.
So, does anyone know how I might figure this out? I have somewhat figured out the R and U sounds by googling them and practicing the methods, as many others have had problems. This one I can't seem to find there, though.
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Sprachprofi Nonaglot Senior Member Germany learnlangs.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6265 days ago 2608 posts - 4866 votes Speaks: German*, English, French, Esperanto, Greek, Mandarin, Latin, Dutch, Italian Studies: Spanish, Arabic (Written), Swahili, Indonesian, Japanese, Modern Hebrew, Portuguese
| Message 2 of 6 30 June 2010 at 9:23pm | IP Logged |
If you're going for Canadian French, just pronounce it as a regular B with an abrupt
stop, like "capab'". It's very common for Quebecers to do so, though in France it's less
common.
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luhmann Senior Member Brazil Joined 5128 days ago 156 posts - 271 votes Speaks: Portuguese* Studies: Mandarin, French, English, Italian, Spanish, Persian, Arabic (classical)
| Message 3 of 6 01 July 2010 at 12:57am | IP Logged |
Say it like in "tablature", "problematic", "ablative", "emblematic", "giblet", "obloquy".
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Captain Haddock Diglot Senior Member Japan kanjicabinet.tumblr. Joined 6563 days ago 2282 posts - 2814 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese Studies: French, Korean, Ancient Greek
| Message 4 of 6 01 July 2010 at 2:42am | IP Logged |
Try pursing your lips like you're going to make a 'b' sound, and with your mouth still closed press your tongue
against the alveolar ridge where the 'l' is pronounced. Then make the 'b' sound and release your tongue.
Part of the trick is that the French 'l' is a light 'l' like in most languages. You don't tense the back of your tongue to
make the dark 'l' that English uses.
Do you have trouble with the French l after other consonants? Can you pronounce 'règle' and 'pamplemousse' all
right?
Edited by Captain Haddock on 01 July 2010 at 2:45am
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Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5176 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian
| Message 5 of 6 14 July 2010 at 9:14pm | IP Logged |
Let's take table, for instance.
This word has only 1 syllable so the stress must be on the vowel "a". When words look like English words, you may have the reflex of expecting an additional syllable when there isn't one.
As the b is formed, the tongue is also in position for an l, and as the b is released, the tongue stays on the l. Start practicing not releasing the l, and later, try releasing the l without adding a vowel sound.
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Heart of Oak Newbie Scotland Joined 5047 days ago 19 posts - 20 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German
| Message 6 of 6 14 July 2010 at 10:32pm | IP Logged |
I studied French in school (although never became fluent). As I recall, the sound at the end of these words is kind of like "bleuh" - it's hard to express in the written word.
You're 'bleh' just needs a bit of u in it! :)
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