sama_el Diglot Newbie Croatia Joined 5120 days ago 37 posts - 39 votes Speaks: Croatian*, English Studies: German, Latin, Modern Hebrew
| Message 1 of 5 13 July 2010 at 10:24am | IP Logged |
I'm having problems with pronouncing the dark schwa ( I believe it's also called the vocalic r ), especially after an R ( the French one ).
How easily could you discern this:
unserer - unsere, euerer - euere
To me it sounds very similar so I must be doing it wrong.
Any tips on how to pronounce the dark schwa correctly?
Thank you!
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eumiro Bilingual Octoglot Groupie Germany Joined 5069 days ago 74 posts - 102 votes Speaks: Czech*, Slovak*, French, English, German, Polish, Spanish, Russian Studies: Italian, Hungarian
| Message 2 of 5 13 July 2010 at 2:06pm | IP Logged |
sama_el wrote:
unserer - unsere, euerer - euere
To me it sounds very similar so I must be doing it wrong.
Any tips on how to pronounce the dark schwa correctly?
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The "-ere" is read with the last 'e' somehow accentuated, while the '-erer' is read with a tiny 'a' and 'r' at the end and not so clean like the '-ere'.
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sama_el Diglot Newbie Croatia Joined 5120 days ago 37 posts - 39 votes Speaks: Croatian*, English Studies: German, Latin, Modern Hebrew
| Message 3 of 5 16 July 2010 at 9:52am | IP Logged |
Thank you!
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LangOfChildren Tetraglot Groupie Germany Joined 5222 days ago 82 posts - 141 votes Speaks: German*, English, French, Swedish Studies: Mandarin, Japanese, Thai, Russian
| Message 4 of 5 16 July 2010 at 11:15am | IP Logged |
You can pronounce '-er' as a short /a/.
unserer -> ['unzəra] (ə being schwa)
Lehrer -> ['le:ra] :)
This may seem weird, but that's how most people actually pronounce it.
Hope this helps.
Edited by LangOfChildren on 16 July 2010 at 11:15am
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sama_el Diglot Newbie Croatia Joined 5120 days ago 37 posts - 39 votes Speaks: Croatian*, English Studies: German, Latin, Modern Hebrew
| Message 5 of 5 16 July 2010 at 10:46pm | IP Logged |
Is it the standard pronunciation? I used to pronounce it schwa+French R w/o trill, but I presume that's wrong. I checked the IPA vowel chart; the "a" vowel you speak of is slightly constricted. It really is strange.
Edited by sama_el on 16 July 2010 at 10:57pm
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