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| talkl Diglot Groupie Israel Joined 5031 days ago 51 posts - 61 votes  Speaks: Modern Hebrew*, English Studies: Spanish | Message 1 of 21 27 July 2010 at 9:55pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Hi,
I'm currently using FSI Spanish Programmatic and it goes well so far. I came with 4 words that are very similar to each other, yet supposedly are slightly different. esa,ese,esta,este. what does each one means. I know that its supposed to be: that (male), that (female), this (female), this (male). Since i don't know the difference in English than i sure don't know the meaning in Spanish. Also, what is the word "Aquella" stands for? And last but not least: -ing. it seems that in Google translate not all of the verbs can be put to the ordinary grammatical rule when i want to apply present progressive (i don't know what it is called in Spanish). for example: la que baila con Jose - works but other verbs don't. So basically the question is, do all verbs approve this form. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| johntm93 Senior Member United States Joined 5122 days ago 587 posts - 746 votes 2 sounds Speaks: English* Studies: German, Spanish | Message 2 of 21 27 July 2010 at 10:15pm | IP Logged | |||||
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esa, ese, esta, and este all mean that (esa and ese) or this (esta and este). They just have to agree in gender with the noun they are replacing. This is typically used for something close by ("this car" would refer to a nearby car) and that is used for something farther off ("that car" would mean a car a little but away from where you are). There used to be a word "yonder" (actually it's still used in some dialects) that would refer to something farther off in the distance (farther than that). I don't know how well I explained that, you may have to google it.
As for the present progressive... Estoy comiendo means "I am eating" but in Spanish you can only use the -ing ending (the -ndo ending en español) if it refers to an action that you are doing right now; you couldn't use it to say "I'm eating soon," you'd have to say "I eat soon." Aquella is another word for "that," although I'm not quite sure on it's use myself (read up on it here). It's the feminine version of "aquel." I'm not completely sure for this, but that's what I understand (I haven't looked at either of those in a while). I'd love it if someone could correct any mistakes I made. Edit: Apparently aquel/aquella is more like "yonder/yon" in English. It refers to something at a greater distance away than "ese/esa" Edited by johntm93 on 27 July 2010 at 10:20pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| betaquarx Triglot Groupie Germany Joined 5514 days ago 70 posts - 90 votes Speaks: German*, English, Dutch Studies: French, Spanish, Russian, Swedish, Mandarin, Japanese | Message 3 of 21 27 July 2010 at 10:15pm | IP Logged | |||||
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that (over there, things further afar)
this (right here, things that are near) 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Javi Senior Member Spain Joined 5776 days ago 419 posts - 548 votes Speaks: Spanish* | Message 4 of 21 28 July 2010 at 10:04am | IP Logged | |||||
Spanish divides the space into three differences regions, one more than in English, although it's not used the same way in all the Spanish dialects. That's the usage I know: este/esta - aquí/acá Used to designate things that are close to the speaker: "Aquí lleva toda la semana lloviendo, este tiempo es deprimente. No se te ocurra venir para acá (= in this direction) ahora" ese/esa - ahí/allá Used to designate things that are close to the listener: "¿Cómo está el tiempo por ahí? En un par de días salgo para allá, me encanta ese lugar" aquel/aquella - allí/allá Used to designate things that are not close to neither the speaker nor the listener: "Creo que debemos dirigirnos hacia aquella montaña de allí - Vale, vamos para allá" I think that in many places in Latin America they use a much simpler system without aquí, ahí and allí. I would say that the one I talked about is the more common in Spain. 4 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| johntm93 Senior Member United States Joined 5122 days ago 587 posts - 746 votes 2 sounds Speaks: English* Studies: German, Spanish | Message 5 of 21 28 July 2010 at 6:04pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Javi, I'm pretty sure they use aquí and allí, but I can't speak for the other words. I've heard my Latin American friends use them. Edited by johntm93 on 29 July 2010 at 3:29am 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| talkl Diglot Groupie Israel Joined 5031 days ago 51 posts - 61 votes Speaks: Modern Hebrew*, English Studies: Spanish | Message 6 of 21 28 July 2010 at 11:32pm | IP Logged | |||||
thank you very much. It seems it was a quick review for your knowledge as well wasn't it? thnx again 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Javi Senior Member Spain Joined 5776 days ago 419 posts - 548 votes Speaks: Spanish* | Message 7 of 21 29 July 2010 at 4:48pm | IP Logged | |||||
I guess it can vary among different countries, but you're probably right in general terms. What I've noticed is that Latin Americans tend to use acá and allá in places where we'd use aquí and allí here in Spain, but it doesn't mean they don't use them at all. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| johntm93 Senior Member United States Joined 5122 days ago 587 posts - 746 votes 2 sounds Speaks: English* Studies: German, Spanish | Message 8 of 21 29 July 2010 at 7:22pm | IP Logged | |||||
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