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Doitsujin Diglot Senior Member Germany Joined 5079 days ago 1256 posts - 2363 votes Speaks: German*, English
| Message 9 of 10 09 September 2010 at 12:36am | IP Logged |
IronFist wrote:
Doitsujin wrote:
Actually, a trilled r [r] is one of the three acceptable ways to pronounce a German r. (The other two are [ʀ] and [ʁ].) |
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For us non-linguists who don't know those symbols, what's the difference between those two (the R and the upside down R)?
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AFAIK, /ʀ/ is called a uvular trill and /ʁ/ a voiced uvular fricative. I.e. [ʀ] is like the French r and [ʁ] is the voiced equivalent of [χ] (the ch sound in Nacht). [ʁ] is more common in Germany than [ʀ].
I found two sound files with a nonsense word on the German Wikipedia web site and linked them to the IPA Symbols in the first sentence. Since they're ogg files, you probably need to have VLC or another media player to listen to then.
The following web site has some nice sound files: The German Consonant 'r' with other consonants
You can also go to the Acapela Text to Speech Demo web site and have it pronounce some words starting with gr or kr. E.g. Kram, krumm, gram, Gramm. The quality is quite good.
Edited by Doitsujin on 09 September 2010 at 7:36pm
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| Message 10 of 10 09 September 2010 at 7:11pm | IP Logged |
I've playing with TTS applications for a while, but this is one of the occasions when I just wouldn't trust an automaton without a native human's seal of approval.
Thank you all for the sound files and explanations.
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