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bcurtis
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 Message 1 of 15
22 September 2010 at 9:41pm | IP Logged 
Hello everyone! I am learning Spanish with Rosetta Stone. I have a question for people who are fluent in Spanish. The words He, Te, Me, Has, Han, and Le give me a little trouble. Here is what I know about them so far.

He- talking about yourself (referencing yourself)
Le- ?
Me- I think you are referencing yourself
Te- referencing someone else
Has- ?
Han?

Can anyone give me advice on these? I want to learn to use these in a sentence correctly.
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tractor
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 Message 2 of 15
22 September 2010 at 10:08pm | IP Logged 
bcurtis wrote:
Can anyone give me advice on these? I want to learn to use these in a sentence correctly.

My advice: get yourself a book that explains the grammar.
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lingoleng
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 Message 3 of 15
22 September 2010 at 10:38pm | IP Logged 
bcurtis wrote:

He- talking about yourself (referencing yourself)
Le- ?
Me- I think you are referencing yourself
Te- referencing someone else
Has- ?
Han?


There are some things mixed up a little bit, just a short help:
The word "haber" is similar to the English "have" in expressions like: I have worked.
The English "have" has two forms only, have and has, but the Spanish haber is some more difficult:
He hablado      I have spoken
Has hablado     you have spoken (you girl there, come over; like this)
Ha hablado      he/she/it has spoken
Hemos hablado   we have spoken
Habéis hablado you have spoken (, you guys there, you have spoken; like this)
Han hablado     they have spoken

So this is this haber stuff, there are even more forms of it, see what Tractor said.

Le is too hard for me, so only about me and te:
These are the forms for me and you in sentences like:
Give me the book   Dame el libro.
I don't understand you    No te entiendo.

These little words, pronouns, are tricky in Spanish, so it is not explained in two words, but for a start this may help you.
If you are looking for a grammar, try to find a very short one with the most important rules only, but such a book c a n be useful.

Edited by lingoleng on 22 September 2010 at 10:43pm

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BellaLuna
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 Message 4 of 15
22 September 2010 at 11:46pm | IP Logged 
Did Rosetta Stone pay you to say the first two lines? Lol seems like you say that quite often.

Edited by BellaLuna on 22 September 2010 at 11:50pm

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bcurtis
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 Message 5 of 15
23 September 2010 at 12:00am | IP Logged 
Lingoleng,
For the words
He
Has
Ha
Hemos
Han

Are these pronouns used in many Spanish speaking countries or just a few Spanish speaking countries?

he hablado- couldn't you also say yo hablado?
has hablado- couldn't you also say usted or tu hablado?
hemos hablado- couldnt you also say nosotros hablado?
han hablado- couldnt you also say ellos hablado?
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lingoleng
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 Message 6 of 15
23 September 2010 at 12:32am | IP Logged 
bcurtis wrote:
Lingoleng,
he hablado- couldn't you also say yo hablado?
has hablado- couldn't you also say usted or tu hablado?
hemos hablado- couldnt you also say nosotros hablado?
han hablado- couldnt you also say ellos hablado?


Hello Bryan, if it is true that you have been trying to learn Spanish for 9 months now, then you must change something, things are not going well. I am not trying to be unfriendly, really not, but this way you will never learn it.
I don't know Rosetta Stone, and I don't care, but give the program a break, take your time, make a new start, maybe after reading for a while in this forum, there are many good tips and hints, for every taste and level, and I am sure you can find something that suits you. But don't waste your time. Maybe you need someone who can give you an introduction and explain some things in person, if you can afford it, but there are really many sources online for free, take your time, look around and find something that looks interesting, but does explain the necessary minimum you just have to know.
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draoicht
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 Message 7 of 15
23 September 2010 at 2:49am | IP Logged 
bcurtis wrote:
Lingoleng,
For the words
He
Has
Ha
Hemos
Han

Are these pronouns used in many Spanish speaking countries or just a few Spanish speaking countries?

he hablado- couldn't you also say yo hablado?
has hablado- couldn't you also say usted or tu hablado?
hemos hablado- couldnt you also say nosotros hablado?
han hablado- couldnt you also say ellos hablado?


Hi Bryan,

As Lingoleng has pointed out, these are not pronouns but the verb Haber - to have.

he - I have
has - you have
ha - he/she/it has
hemos - we have
habéis - you have
han - they have

They are combined with the past participle of a verb, e.g. hablado, to form the present perfect which usually refers to actions completed in the recent past.

he hablado = I have spoken
has hablado = you have spoken

As others have pointed out, you should do yourself a favour and grab a grammar book, I have used "Spanish Verb Tenses" by Dorothy Richmond and it's not bad.
There's no point in trying to guess the grammar of a language if a quick skim through a grammar book will clear up any misunderstandings that you have.

As for Rosetta Stone, I think it's best combined with another course, one that will fill in the gaps that R.S. leaves.

But I seriously think you should consider ditching R.S. altogether and try Assimil or Platiquemos which both have explanations for Spanish grammar.






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iguanamon
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 Message 8 of 15
23 September 2010 at 2:51am | IP Logged 
Try the book Spanish Step By Step by Charles Berlitz for $10 at Amazon- an oldie but a goodie!



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