stelingo Hexaglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5628 days ago 722 posts - 1076 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Portuguese, French, German, Italian Studies: Russian, Czech, Polish, Greek, Mandarin
| Message 1 of 5 15 October 2010 at 12:24am | IP Logged |
Is the first -r in prendre silent? According to the older version of TY Catalan it is, along with derivitaves (aprendre, sorprendre) and tenses formed from the infinitive stem (prendré etc). However in the newer version, on the CDs it seems to be pronounced, although I'm not 100% sure. I checked the phonetic transciption in my Catalan dictionary, and that indicates it is pronounced. Has the pronunciation of this verb changed since the publication of the first version of TY?
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Cainntear Pentaglot Senior Member Scotland linguafrankly.blogsp Joined 5807 days ago 4399 posts - 7687 votes Speaks: Lowland Scots, English*, French, Spanish, Scottish Gaelic Studies: Catalan, Italian, German, Irish, Welsh
| Message 2 of 5 15 October 2010 at 10:18am | IP Logged |
The most recent Assimil says it's silent, but I have already noticed that this seems to vary by dialect.
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tractor Tetraglot Senior Member Norway Joined 5249 days ago 1349 posts - 2292 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, English, Spanish, Catalan Studies: French, German, Latin
| Message 3 of 5 15 October 2010 at 7:51pm | IP Logged |
I think it's silent in Standard Catalan as spoken in Barcelona.
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^veganboy^ Groupie United Kingdom Joined 5715 days ago 51 posts - 51 votes
| Message 4 of 5 16 October 2010 at 5:54am | IP Logged |
Is the first -r in prendre silent? According to the older version of TY Catalan it is, along with derivitaves (aprendre, sorprendre) and tenses formed from the infinitive stem (prendré etc). However in the newer version, on the CDs it seems to be pronounced, although
Yes,in general, it is silent, aprendre= "ah-pen- drer", Sorprendre= "soor-pen-drer". Pronouncing the r would sound to me as If you pronounced every single T in every word you say in English: fasten, crescent, important,etc...
Congratulations on learning Catalan, should you need any further help, do not hesitate to contact me.
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stelingo Hexaglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5628 days ago 722 posts - 1076 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Portuguese, French, German, Italian Studies: Russian, Czech, Polish, Greek, Mandarin
| Message 5 of 5 16 October 2010 at 1:23pm | IP Logged |
Thanks for the replies, and for your kind offer Veganboy.
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