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| Cainntear Pentaglot Senior Member Scotland linguafrankly.blogsp Joined 5799 days ago 4399 posts - 7687 votes  Speaks: Lowland Scots, English*, French, Spanish, Scottish Gaelic Studies: Catalan, Italian, German, Irish, Welsh | Message 9 of 15 23 October 2010 at 11:16am | IP Logged | |||||
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Fine, but that's not what you said. You quoted Krashen directly, including the bits specific to his theory.
It's not my fault if you don't say what you mean. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| irrationale Tetraglot Senior Member China Joined 5838 days ago 669 posts - 1023 votes 2 sounds Speaks: English*, Spanish, Mandarin, Tagalog Studies: Ancient Greek, Japanese | Message 10 of 15 23 October 2010 at 11:57am | IP Logged | |||||
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It seems pretty commonplace and common sense to me. You do something intensely and you start unconsciously dreaming, replaying it over and over, etc. It happened all the time when I did math research heavily, dreamed about math, etc.
However I do notice that my fluency has begun in a language usually around the time I have my first dream in that language. I don't know if that means anything. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| tothemax6 Newbie Australia Joined 4938 days ago 6 posts - 7 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese | Message 11 of 15 23 October 2010 at 2:55pm | IP Logged | |||||
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So how to I induce this 'din in the head'? Have any of you guys had this in the language you were learning, and what led up to it?
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| slucido Bilingual Diglot Senior Member Spain https://goo.gl/126Yv Joined 6463 days ago 1296 posts - 1781 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Spanish*, Catalan* Studies: English | Message 12 of 15 23 October 2010 at 3:14pm | IP Logged | |||||
I agree with Krashen and with you. I don't see any huge gap.
Sometimes I think in English involuntarily. Think I am living in Spain and I have never visited any English speaking country. It usually happens when I am interacting with the English language the whole time. I mean high frequency interaction all day long. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Splog Diglot Senior Member Czech Republic anthonylauder.c Joined 5457 days ago 1062 posts - 3263 votes Speaks: English*, Czech Studies: Mandarin | Message 13 of 15 23 October 2010 at 3:34pm | IP Logged | |||||
Here is a simple and effective approach: Take an assimil course, and read the same single lesson 10 times at spaced intervals throughout the day, and listen to the audio for that single lessons 30 times throughout the day: including immediately upon waking, and just before going to sleep. The second day, review the previous day's lesson a few times, then do as above for a new lesson. Within a day or two, your brain will be overflowing with the language and chatting to itself in random words and phrases when you least expect it. Edited by Splog on 23 October 2010 at 3:37pm 3 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| carlonove Senior Member United States Joined 5774 days ago 145 posts - 253 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Italian | Message 14 of 15 23 October 2010 at 4:31pm | IP Logged | |||||
Good advice; I've found that shadowing Assimil lessons repeatedly also "induces the din", especially on waking and before bed. A. Arguelles mentions the din (not by name) in one of his videos on the shadowing procedure and adds that the involuntary phrases will at times combine and form new sentences and phrases. I've also encountered this with L+R, although it tends to manifest in very short phrases or individual words rather than whole sentences. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| doviende Diglot Senior Member Canada languagefixatio Joined 5774 days ago 533 posts - 1245 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Spanish, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Hindi, Swedish, Portuguese | Message 15 of 15 24 October 2010 at 10:38am | IP Logged | |||||
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This happens to me even when I don't understand that much. When I spent a lot of time listening to a really fast and complicated chinese news program, and understood almost nothing, I still got the din and heard phrases that I didn't understand. Then later I understood them suddenly.
I'm convinced that achieving this mental state is helpful in the learning process. 2 persons have voted this message useful |
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