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Cesare M.
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Message 9 of 22

15 November 2010 at 1:02pm | IP Logged

Lucas wrote:

Why don't you speak urdu, kyrgiz, kazakh,
kurdish tatar, albanian, pashto or
azerbaidjaini on your vid?
How can you actually speak those languages?
How did you learn them?

Well I do have videos on my profile that are in Urdu, Kyrgyz,
and Pashto, but I will certainly consider speaking all those 7
languages you listed for my series. I learned all those
languages from the Internet. I chat with a good number of natives in Kazakh and Kyrgyz on Skype all the
time. I sometimes chat with Albanians from LiveMocha, I chat with two Tatars, one Kurdish person, one
Azeri person on Skype, and etc. I also learned Albanian through a video.

Edited by Cesare M. on 15 November 2010 at 1:06pm
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slhdn
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Message 10 of 22

15 November 2010 at 2:49pm | IP Logged

No one has to believe you. You don't have to convince anyone of anything.
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Cesare M.
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Message 11 of 22

15 November 2010 at 10:24pm | IP Logged

slhdn wrote:

No one has to believe you. You don't have to convince anyone of anything.

I know that but it's hard to explain why I keep on trying too hard. I just want to know if you believe me and you think that I am not acting like a moron. Thanks.
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ellasevia
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Message 12 of 22

15 November 2010 at 11:49pm | IP Logged

Cesare M. wrote:

I also learned Albanian through a video.

"A" video? As in just the one? How long was this video that it taught you the whole language to fluency? Not doubting; such a video may very well exist, but I imagine it would be rather lengthy. Just wondering...
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Cesare M.
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Message 13 of 22

16 November 2010 at 12:50am | IP Logged

ellasevia wrote:

Cesare M. wrote:

I also learned
Albanian through a video.

"A" video? As in just the one? How long was this video that it
taught you the whole language to fluency? Not doubting; such
a video may very well exist, but I imagine it would be rather
lengthy. Just wondering...

Well the video was the main one but I also learned through
other natives and such.
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Journeyer
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Message 14 of 22

20 November 2010 at 12:41am | IP Logged

Hi Cesare, I want to impart with you some of the best language advice I ever got.

Trying to prove fluency is ultimately counterproductive in situations like this, ie this forum or Youtube videos.
Language is not a concrete thing with any finish line. Being fluent in a language is a bit like being mature in
general. Try not to worry about how others define you or your skills. Don't make fluency an end-goal because
it's too imprecise. Just work on getting more proficient and comfortable in your languages.

In short, don't worry about becoming fluent; just work on improving your skills. If you are fluent you will become
better. If you are not fluency it will come on it's own.

It seems to me that your passion for languages and willingness to seek out speakers is one of your biggest
advantages. Do it because you love it, not because you are seeking to prove anything. You are not a not a [EDIT:
an honest typo of repetition, but I'm leaving it in to prove my point] moron and even for the most gifted of us,
mistakes and challenges come around.

Edited by Journeyer on 20 November 2010 at 12:43am
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Cesare M.
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20 November 2010 at 1:05am | IP Logged

Journeyer wrote:

Hi Cesare, I want to impart with you some of the best language advice I ever got.

Trying to prove fluency is ultimately counterproductive in situations like this, ie this forum or Youtube videos.
Language is not a concrete thing with any finish line. Being fluent in a language is a bit like being mature in
general. Try not to worry about how others define you or your skills. Don't make fluency an end-goal
because
it's too imprecise. Just work on getting more proficient and comfortable in your languages.

In short, don't worry about becoming fluent; just work on improving your skills. If you are fluent you will
become
better. If you are not fluency it will come on it's own.

It seems to me that your passion for languages and willingness to seek out speakers is one of your biggest
advantages. Do it because you love it, not because you are seeking to prove anything. You are not a not a
[EDIT:
an honest typo of repetition, but I'm leaving it in to prove my point] moron and even for the most gifted of
us,
mistakes and challenges come around.

I sent you a private message in response to this but I
forgot to say some things: First of all I am not worried about being fluent but I am aiming to be fluent in all
my languages so I can do a whole lot with them. Second of all, if I honestly feel that I am fluent in a
language then I pretty much don't really need to learn things in those languages anymore, but I do make
sure that my ability to speak fluently in those languages doesn't get rusty. I AM comfortable in those 9
languages and several others too, so don't worry. It's fine with me if I am not fluent in a language. For
example, I am taking all the Turkush language courses in LiveMocha right now because I am not fluent in
Turkish and I want to improve it. But I am still very glad that I can still speak the language at the same
time, so do not worry. Thanks for understanding and please reply.
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Journeyer
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Message 16 of 22

20 November 2010 at 2:20am | IP Logged

Thanks for your private message. I'm not worried about your skills. I think it's fine you ask for help and advice but
be careful not to get stuck on labels. As people here have said, everyone has their own definition of fluency, so
asking others is a little futile. This applies to everything, not just languages and fluency.

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