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| vickyyuchi Newbie Taiwan Joined 4906 days ago 14 posts - 17 votes Speaks: English | Message 9 of 16 07 December 2010 at 3:32pm | IP Logged | |||||
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I think it would related to learner's learning strategies, learning styles and so on. To be more specifically, it's depend on individual differences. Personally, when it comes to language leanring, I would prefer to learn it in small chunks frequently rather than to study it for a long period at a time. Base on my leanring experience, if I study a foreign language for a long period a time, I would feel exhausted and cannot learn effectively. It usually takes more time to fully remeber the vocabulary, grammar or something else. I think to acquire a language needs frequent practices and frequent engagement in the environment. It's hard for me to just "study" it for a long time. However, it's just my personal experience sharing. Everyone could be different. Feel free to say something against me. :)
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| Splog Diglot Senior Member Czech Republic anthonylauder.c Joined 5457 days ago 1062 posts - 3263 votes  Speaks: English*, Czech Studies: Mandarin | Message 10 of 16 07 December 2010 at 3:45pm | IP Logged | |||||
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For the most part, I now average around 5 minutes per task. Sometimes it is longer, but
rarely more than 15 minutes. I have found that 12 x 5 minutes of listening, spread throughout the day, allows me to concentrate with all my abilities during each of these 12 sessions without getting burned out, and without my attention wandering.. The other advantage is that even if I find I am doing something I hate, I know I will swap it for something I enjoy in just 5 minutes. Edited by Splog on 07 December 2010 at 3:46pm 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| josht Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 6234 days ago 635 posts - 857 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: French, Spanish, Russian, Dutch | Message 11 of 16 07 December 2010 at 4:47pm | IP Logged | |||||
How does this work with your Spiral Method? I know you said an average iteration might take 2 hours, so how do you break that up into 24 tasks? (If this is covered in more detail in one of your later Spiral Method videos, feel free to just respond with "wait and see!" :) 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Cainntear Pentaglot Senior Member Scotland linguafrankly.blogsp Joined 5799 days ago 4399 posts - 7687 votes Speaks: Lowland Scots, English*, French, Spanish, Scottish Gaelic Studies: Catalan, Italian, German, Irish, Welsh | Message 12 of 16 07 December 2010 at 5:26pm | IP Logged | |||||
I'd still argue that this is more about the quality of the material you're using than your strengths and weaknesses as a learner. If the course is moving too quickly, everyone will find their heads overloaded and will have to stop to make sense of it. But if everything being presented is taught properly, you can keep going. The one individual difference is how much your prior knowledge allows you to make sense of new information. I'm dismissed as "good at languages" because of how quickly I can pick up the basics of a new indo-european language, but that's not just my "learning style" -- I already know most of the important distinctions in concepts in IE languages. Unlike a new learner, I'm happy with gender and conjugation, and I'm OK (not brilliant) with noun cases. I have a broad palette of phonemes. When something is presented to me, I can see what I already know and that makes it quicker, but one of the things I liked about Michel Thomas is how he would make things seem familiar, so that anyone could learn them quickly. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5169 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian | Message 13 of 16 07 December 2010 at 5:29pm | IP Logged | |||||
What do you hate? I don't think there is anything I do in my study that I hate... Edited by Arekkusu on 07 December 2010 at 5:30pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5169 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian | Message 14 of 16 07 December 2010 at 5:31pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Would anyone argue that mixing up short bouts and long study periods is an optimal combination -- for other reasons than inevitably hitting the best of the two without needing to figure out which one that is?
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| Splog Diglot Senior Member Czech Republic anthonylauder.c Joined 5457 days ago 1062 posts - 3263 votes Speaks: English*, Czech Studies: Mandarin | Message 15 of 16 07 December 2010 at 7:13pm | IP Logged | |||||
I just do a bit at a time. For example, finding the definitions of a few words, or looking as some grammar points and noting them down. Many five or ten minutes at a go, with, say, four or five such sessions spread over the day. Similarly, when I interact later with the audio, I usually spend only five minutes or so at a time on it. In fact, I purposefully break my recordings in audacity into small bite-sized chunks. Sometimes as little as a minute, most around five minutes, and none ever longer than ten minutes. The two activities that I often let take longer than five minutes are: the play time on my white-board, where I can often go for 15 minutes and still feel totally fresh, and also Anki review sessions (since these require very little effort, as I use Anki only for revision nowadays). But even then, I sometimes break those down to five minute sessions when I feel any hint of tiredness setting in. The whole aim here is to: 1: always stop an activity when I still want more (to keep me hungry for the next session); 2: keep a sustainable pace, so I can go for hours a day without getting tired. I find that a vast number of very short sessions has proven to be the most effective means for achieving this. However, I continually play with these times. A few months ago, I was using 15 minutes sessions with 10 minute breaks between them. For the last few months I have been playing with these 5 minute sessions, and so far am happy with them. Nevertheless, I will likely change the durations at some point to see what impact it has. Since the timing is the least stable part of my "method" I don't intend to talk about it much in the videos, since I think Spiral should be able to work within a variety of timing schedules. 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Splog Diglot Senior Member Czech Republic anthonylauder.c Joined 5457 days ago 1062 posts - 3263 votes Speaks: English*, Czech Studies: Mandarin | Message 16 of 16 07 December 2010 at 7:22pm | IP Logged | |||||
There is no specific thing I hate. Although, sometimes I come across content that look promising, but once I start listening, or reading I realise "this isn't enjoyable - but I will stick with it for the rest of the five minute block". So, maybe "hate" was a strong word. I should have said, "even when I find I am working with some content I don't enjoy" 1 person has voted this message useful |
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