HMS Senior Member England Joined 4867 days ago 143 posts - 256 votes Speaks: English*
| Message 1 of 5 09 December 2010 at 10:22pm | IP Logged |
Firstly, thankyou to you all. I have been a long time lurker here and have learned a lot.
I have a question that I don't think has been addressed here.
I am trying to teach myself German via various methods and languages courses. The problem I am having is - I have a false tooth which requires a plate that covers the upper of my mouth. I have had it for two years now but only started learning German three months ago. I have only just managed to stop lisping in English. I am having particular difficulty with ezsett and "icht" type sounds.
I don't really know what I'm asking here, maybe just confirmation that I'm not alone? Is this common?
I understand if people are reluctant to reply to this.
Thankyou.
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SamD Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 6419 days ago 823 posts - 987 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, French Studies: Portuguese, Norwegian
| Message 2 of 5 09 December 2010 at 10:26pm | IP Logged |
"Icht" type sounds aren't necessarily easy for those of us who don't have any false teeth. My hunch is that as you get more and more input and practice in German, you'll lisp less.
If you were learning Castilian Spanish, you might even sound more authentic with a lisp.
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hrhenry Octoglot Senior Member United States languagehopper.blogs Joined 4890 days ago 1871 posts - 3642 votes Speaks: English*, SpanishC2, ItalianC2, Norwegian, Catalan, Galician, Turkish, Portuguese Studies: Polish, Indonesian, Ojibwe
| Message 3 of 5 09 December 2010 at 10:30pm | IP Logged |
SamD wrote:
If you were learning Castilian Spanish, you might even sound more authentic with a lisp. |
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Not really. It's not applied willy-nilly to all Latin American "s" sounds (and not used at all in some parts of Spain, for that matter).
But yeah, I agree that with practice, the lisp should diminish, regardless of the language being learned.
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schoenewaelder Diglot Senior Member Germany Joined 5320 days ago 759 posts - 1197 votes Speaks: English*, French Studies: German, Spanish, Dutch
| Message 4 of 5 10 December 2010 at 6:06pm | IP Logged |
I don't know if it will help with your specific problem, but make sure you always keep the tip of your tongue against your bottom teeth.
I only got to grips with "ch" quite recently myself (after several years!)
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Solfrid Cristin Heptaglot Winner TAC 2011 & 2012 Senior Member Norway Joined 5094 days ago 4143 posts - 8864 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, Spanish, Swedish, French, English, German, Italian Studies: Russian
| Message 5 of 5 12 December 2010 at 1:30am | IP Logged |
hrhenry wrote:
SamD wrote:
If you were learning Castilian Spanish, you might even sound more authentic with a lisp. |
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Not really. It's not applied willy-nilly to all Latin American "s" sounds (and not used at all in some parts of Spain, for that matter).
But yeah, I agree that with practice, the lisp should diminish, regardless of the language being learned.
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Well actually, there are parts of AndalucĂa where they have the "ceceo" in which not only the c and z but also the s is pronunced with a lisp. Andalucia is interesting, since they have parts where they differentiate between the two sounds, parts which only have the s and parts which only have the lisping sound. It is just a matter of hitting the right place, and a lisp is actually an asset!!
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