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| zamie Groupie Australia Joined 5034 days ago 83 posts - 126 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: German, Modern Hebrew | Message 17 of 29 11 April 2011 at 10:36am | IP Logged | ||
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Thanks for the guide, i just started learning today -)
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| pinkeyemusic Newbie United States Joined 4757 days ago 4 posts - 7 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Latin, Ancient Greek, French, Biblical Hebrew, Portuguese | Message 18 of 29 14 April 2011 at 9:15am | IP Logged | ||
About the alphabets, sure they look different, mainly because one is in block style (kind of like writing in ALL CAPS) and the other looks more like cursive handwriting, but the symbols and sounds that they represent are pretty similar. There are a few different phonemes, for example Arabic doesn't have a /p/ phoneme, but you can find sound correspondences between the languages easily, and the alphabets (abjad, actually) are perfectly suited to the languages. Certainly not like English written in the Latin script! what a nightmare! 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| liddytime Pentaglot Senior Member United States mainlymagyar.wordpre Joined 6010 days ago 693 posts - 1328 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Italian, Portuguese, Galician Studies: Hungarian, Vietnamese, Modern Hebrew, Norwegian, Persian, Arabic (Written) | Message 19 of 29 14 April 2011 at 12:45pm | IP Logged | ||
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This show, Arab Labor, (Hebrew: עבודה ערבית, Avoda Aravit; Arabic: شغل عَرَب) is absolutely brilliant! It is called the
Palestinian Seinfeld. It is about 80% Hebrew with about 20% Palestinian Arabic. You can watch episodes free online here: Arab labor 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| JW Hexaglot Senior Member United States youtube.com/user/egw Joined 5903 days ago 1802 posts - 2011 votes 22 sounds Speaks: English*, German, Spanish, Ancient Greek, French, Biblical Hebrew Studies: Luxembourgish, Dutch, Greek, Italian | Message 20 of 29 14 April 2011 at 2:07pm | IP Logged | ||
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Very nice work on the profile.
However, it does not include enough information on Biblical Hebrew. I am assuming this profile is meant to cover both Biblical and Modern? Edited by JW on 14 April 2011 at 2:07pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| MichaelM204351 Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5225 days ago 151 posts - 173 votes Speaks: English*, Biblical Hebrew Studies: Modern Hebrew, German, Spanish | Message 21 of 29 17 April 2011 at 2:28am | IP Logged | ||
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Biblical Hebrew is not so different from Modern Hebrew. The only main difference is the
use of a verb conjugation for feminine third person plural which is not commonly used today. Also Biblical Hebrew possesses a much smaller vocabulary than modern Hebrew. Some words are slightly different (for example, the biblical Hebrew word for 'to say' is 'leemor', while in modern Hebrew it is 'lomar'), but they are the exception, not the rule. Simply put, if King david were to walk the streets of Jerusalem today, he would totally be understood. He just might need to spend a day or two adjusting to some new vocab. Believe it or not, he probably didn't know the Hebrew word for 'car.' ;o) 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| JW Hexaglot Senior Member United States youtube.com/user/egw Joined 5903 days ago 1802 posts - 2011 votes 22 sounds Speaks: English*, German, Spanish, Ancient Greek, French, Biblical Hebrew Studies: Luxembourgish, Dutch, Greek, Italian | Message 22 of 29 17 April 2011 at 3:43am | IP Logged | ||
The parts of the profile that would be different for Biblical vs Modern would be: Usefulness - the reasons to learn Biblical are much different than Modern. These reasons would be interesting to enumerate Vocabulary - There are exactly 8,674 words in the Hebrew Bible. Books and Resources - The resources for learning Biblical are much different and much more sophisticated than those available for learning Modern. Thus under the "Time Needed" section, a measure of ability can be obtained more quickly than the one to two years required to learn Modern--although this is probably the amount of time needed to really master Biblical--i.e., to pick up the Hebrew Bible and be able to more or less read it. Also, under vocabulary, I have heard it said that Modern Hebrew is really "Yiddish relexified" i.e., that the syntax and construction is more Yiddish, i.e., Germanic, as opposed to Biblical which is Semitic in it's syntax. I don't know if others that know both Modern and Biblical see it this way--I lack the experience with Modern to make the judgement. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| MichaelM204351 Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5225 days ago 151 posts - 173 votes Speaks: English*, Biblical Hebrew Studies: Modern Hebrew, German, Spanish | Message 23 of 29 17 April 2011 at 4:50am | IP Logged | ||
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I see what you're saying... I'll work on this.
I really don't see too much of a difference as far as syntax goes. I do occasionally come across something while reading Torah that sounds different from how it would be said in modern Hebrew, but nothing too different (but then again, I am not totally fluent). I do know some Yiddish and I wouldn't say the syntax is similar at all, in my opinion... I don't know Biblical Hebrew resources too well (I learned through a yeshiva). Do you know of good resources that we could put on the profile? 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| zamie Groupie Australia Joined 5034 days ago 83 posts - 126 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Modern Hebrew | Message 24 of 29 17 April 2011 at 6:22am | IP Logged | ||
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Hello, i don't know about biblical hebrew resources, but i found a book on the internet
that is free, and seems to be a complete grammar of modern hebrew. The book seems to be in its complete form as well. Maybe it's illegal, not at all sure. http://www.futuretg.com/FTHumanEvolutionCourse/FTFreeLearnin gKits/06-LA-Languages/047- LA07-Hebrew/Lewis%20Glinert%20-%20Modern%20Hebrew,%20An%20Es sential%20Grammar%203ed.pdf EDit: Oh, it doesn't seem to work when I access it via the link in the post. To find the book then, just google the phrase 'modern Hebrew an essential grammar' and click on the first result. Edited by zamie on 17 April 2011 at 6:27am 2 persons have voted this message useful |
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