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juman
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 Message 1 of 15
14 January 2011 at 4:57pm | IP Logged 
Just starting out learning French and have tried to apply all sort of study techniques and working with a couple of
"begin to learn french"-books. The only thing I fall back to is to continue to read the book I have started and
break down part of sentences using the Internet.

So it has taken me two weeks but I now have read the first page of the book "L'empire des loups" by Jean-
Christophe Grangé. I have the book as french audio, french text and a swedish copy of the book and what I do
sentence by sentence is :

1. Write the sentence in french (copy), and swedish (copy)
2. Lookup word by word and find the base form of the words, I skip the small words
3. Listen to the audio several times
4. Repeat the audio with my text and notes in front of me

So now I know some of the sentences by heart, I know some basic grammar I looked up to see how some words
where handled. I might have learned about 100-150 words which I know quite well now even though I am not
that good with the pronunciation yet. But still when hearing the word I see the context from the sentences I
know as well as I know most of the spelling.

I have tried the following :

SRS (using Anki) = I use it a bit but it gets to boring in the long run
Just listening = As I can't understand much at all yet I just get tired as I still try to understand what I hear
Beginner books = I have tried some "Teach yourself" books etc but as reading texts on how to say Hello, Goodbye
etc has no interesting context except just learning the phrases I gave up
Grammatical books = Tried to do some beginning grammar but also really boring

So in short I will continue by slowmotion bookreading as it is the only way I so far have kept my interest to
continue. Learning should be fun so why not :-)


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mr_chinnery
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 Message 2 of 15
14 January 2011 at 5:06pm | IP Logged 
What do you mean by 'skip the small words'? They might be important!
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noriyuki_nomura
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 Message 3 of 15
14 January 2011 at 5:11pm | IP Logged 
Hi juman,

That is really quite a challenge to already read a French novel when you are starting out to learn French!

Please do keep us updated with your progress, and good luck to your French studies! :)

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juman
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 Message 4 of 15
14 January 2011 at 5:30pm | IP Logged 
mr_chinnery wrote:
What do you mean by 'skip the small words'? They might be important!


Not at the moment. As long as I understand the context and the bigger words it doesn't matter if I know words as :

se, l', de, á, au, sa, las, son ...

I don't need to know them right now and will learn them in the long run. And when I feel like it I look it up as most
of them are grammarrelated like le and la etc.
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juman
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 Message 5 of 15
14 January 2011 at 5:32pm | IP Logged 
noriyuki_nomura wrote:
Hi juman,

That is really quite a challenge to already read a French novel when you are starting out to learn French!

Please do keep us updated with your progress, and good luck to your French studies! :)


Yes, I know and that is why I tried all the other ways to do this and yes I'll update with the progress now and then...
:-)
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juman
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Speaks: Swedish*, English
Studies: French

 
 Message 7 of 15
15 January 2011 at 10:52am | IP Logged 
legoland wrote:
What you're doing here is very interesting.

Some books are easier, with a lot of repetition of the same words.
For example:
Le petit prince by Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
Le grand cahier by Agota Kristof is a very good book and very easy.
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agota_Kristof
You might try Le petit Nicholas by René Goscinny and Jean-Jacques Sempé.
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_petit_Nicolas - very funny stories.


They are all recorded in French.


Thank you! That was some great ideas. If I get them in the same three version as I see to this I will look into
them (fre audio, fre text and swe text). It would probably be a better a idea to start with simpler books that still
be interesting but I had no idea when I started out. My idea was also to get a french writer as I think they will
provide more genuine language then some other writer translated to french.
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