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| Gorgoll2 Senior Member Brazil veritassword.blogspo Joined 4950 days ago 159 posts - 192 votes  Speaks: Portuguese* | Message 1 of 15 29 January 2011 at 5:43pm | IP Logged | ||
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I´m actually learning Ancient Greek, and I would like some answers:
*Is Koiné Greek enough closed to Classic Greek to be able to understand both the variants? *What is easier? *Is possible to learn the both dialects simoutaneosly? 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| lingoleng Senior Member Germany Joined 5102 days ago 605 posts - 1290 votes | Message 2 of 15 29 January 2011 at 9:53pm | IP Logged | ||
When you can read Ancient Greek you won't have problems reading Koine, the other way round will be harder and take more effort and additional learning. What is your goal? Just learn some language? Then learn Koine. Or learn the language of Homer and Platon (ok, there is quite a difference between them, but let's keep things easy)? Then the answer is obvious, too. Or if you are interested in reading the Christian New Testament then learn Koine. But to add some practical experience: I learned Ancient Greek at school and towards the end of the second year we started reading original literature. The teacher chose passages from the New Testament because it is written in a straightforward, syntactically not very complex language, and we made hardly any adjustments to what we had learned (as Ancent Greek), the difference from this direction was not very significant. Of course, the more advanced you are the more differences you will notice, whereas you may not even notice that you deal with different stages of the same language when you are a beginner. Our member JW has made some interesting comparisions in his learning log, but I think he compared Modern Greek and Koine only, but still you may get an impression about this kind of language change, just look through the logs, please, because I can't find it right now, sorry. Edited by lingoleng on 29 January 2011 at 10:24pm 4 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Gorgoll2 Senior Member Brazil veritassword.blogspo Joined 4950 days ago 159 posts - 192 votes Speaks: Portuguese* | Message 3 of 15 30 January 2011 at 5:22pm | IP Logged | ||
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Lingoleng, thank you very much. This post was good for my doubts. I am now able to go
ahead at my studies. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Lamonte Newbie United States Joined 4998 days ago 12 posts - 22 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Latin, Ancient Greek, Biblical Hebrew, French, Modern Hebrew, Greek | Message 4 of 15 30 January 2011 at 10:05pm | IP Logged | ||
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Koine Greek is easier to learn because it is a bit more simplified than Classical Greek.
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| JW Hexaglot Senior Member United States youtube.com/user/egw Joined 5926 days ago 1802 posts - 2011 votes 22 sounds Speaks: English*, German, Spanish, Ancient Greek, French, Biblical Hebrew Studies: Luxembourgish, Dutch, Greek, Italian | Message 5 of 15 31 January 2011 at 12:09am | IP Logged | ||
Koine Greek was the language of the people, the street language as it were--between the 3rd century BC and the 3rd Century AD. The very term koine (Κοινή) means common--the common language of the people. Thus it is easier and more simplified, as Lamonte points out, in comparison with Classical Greek which is more a literary language. I agree with Lingoleng in that if your goal is to read Homer, Plato, Euripedies, Aristophanes et al., then learn Classical. If your goal is to read the New Testament and the Septuagint (as is mine) then learn Koine. Also, Koine will give you easier access to Modern Greek as it is the main ancestor to Koine--than will Classical Greek. I found Modern Greek to be very easy and exciting to learn after having a solid base in Koine. I would think it would be confusing to learn both Koine and Classical simultaneously-- I would learn one to a fairly solid level before moving to the other. Edited by JW on 31 January 2011 at 12:13am 8 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Gorgoll2 Senior Member Brazil veritassword.blogspo Joined 4950 days ago 159 posts - 192 votes Speaks: Portuguese* | Message 6 of 15 31 January 2011 at 6:09pm | IP Logged | ||
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I´m indeed getting much help. But, I will begin to learn Koiné Greek for a study of
Christian Scriptures - New Testament, Septuagint, Fathers of The Church -, and when I´ll have a solid base, I will go to the classic studies. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| JW Hexaglot Senior Member United States youtube.com/user/egw Joined 5926 days ago 1802 posts - 2011 votes 22 sounds Speaks: English*, German, Spanish, Ancient Greek, French, Biblical Hebrew Studies: Luxembourgish, Dutch, Greek, Italian | Message 7 of 15 31 January 2011 at 6:31pm | IP Logged | ||
All the best on your studies. Here is something you may find interesting: http://how-to-learn-any-language.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?T ID=25004&PN=1 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Gorgoll2 Senior Member Brazil veritassword.blogspo Joined 4950 days ago 159 posts - 192 votes Speaks: Portuguese* | Message 8 of 15 02 February 2011 at 2:14am | IP Logged | ||
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Thank you, JW. Let God bless you.
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