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tractor
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 Message 17 of 25
04 March 2011 at 11:06pm | IP Logged 
clumsy wrote:
According to Wikipedia.
The Decimal system is the most common - people have 10 fingers.
[…]
And French uses 12.
Check Wikipedia for decimal.

Why? Because Frenchmen have 12 fingers?
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 Message 18 of 25
05 March 2011 at 12:02am | IP Logged 
clumsy wrote:
According to Wikipedia.
The Decimal system is the most common - people have 10 fingers.
[…]
And French uses 12.
Check Wikipedia for decimal.


I confess to not understanding the comment that the French use 12 rather than ten - did you perhaps mean "20"?


Edited by Spanky on 05 March 2011 at 12:21am

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 Message 19 of 25
05 March 2011 at 12:31am | IP Logged 
Spanky wrote:
Because I am a pedantic sort, I was in the process of writing a post that most people actually
have 8 fingers (accompanied by two thumbs).   But as keen as I am about being a smart-ash, I am equally keen in
making sure that I am right, so I googled and find that thumbs may optionally be included as "fingers" for the
purpose of determining how many fingers one has.

Hmm... Eight fingers? Thumb not a finger? I wasn't aware of that. English is a strange language indeed. Almost as
strange as the French and their twelve fingers. I learnt something new today.
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 Message 20 of 25
05 March 2011 at 2:46am | IP Logged 
Arekkusu wrote:
The fact that 4-20 is used to say 80 is also very telling.


English used to use this system as well:

"Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth, upon this continent, a new nation" - from the Gettysburg address delivered in 1863 and referring to the American Revolution of 1776 which was 87 years earlier

"The days of our years are three score years and ten; and if by reason of strength they be fourscore years, yet is their strength labor and sorrow; for it is soon cut off, and we fly away." Psalm 90:10 King James Bible - 1611 - three score and ten = 70 fourscore = 80




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 Message 21 of 25
07 March 2011 at 4:37pm | IP Logged 
OK, sorry, I misread it.
It is actually 20 in French.

From Wikipedia:

Some cultures do, or did, use other numeral systems, most notably

    * pre-Columbian Mesoamerican cultures such as the Maya used a base 20 system (using all twenty fingers and toes) and
    * the Babylonians used base 60.

In addition, it has been suggested that many other cultures developed alternative numeral systems (although the extent is debated):

    * Many or all of the Chumashan languages originally used a base 4 counting system, in which the names for numbers were structured according to multiples of 4 and 16.[31]
    * Many languages[32] use quinary number systems, including Gumatj, Nunggubuyu,[33] Kuurn Kopan Noot[34] and Saraveca. Of these, Gumatj is the only true "5-25" language known, in which 25 is the higher group of 5.
    * Some Nigerians use base 12 systems[citation needed]
    * The Huli language of Papua New Guinea is reported to have base 15 numerals.[35] Ngui means 15, ngui ki means 15×2 = 30, and ngui ngui means 15×15 = 225.
    * Umbu-Ungu, also known as Kakoli, is reported to have base-24 numerals.[36][37] Tokapu means 24, tokapu talu means 24×2 = 48, and tokapu tokapu means 24×24 = 576.
    * Base 27 is used in two natural languages, the Telefol language and the Oksapmin language of Papua New Guinea.[citation needed]
    * Ngiti is reported to have a base 32 numeral system with base 4 cycles.[38]

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 Message 22 of 25
10 March 2011 at 9:10pm | IP Logged 
The traditional Welsh system is based on a bunch of weird stuff.

1-10 = normal
11 = "one on ten"
12 = is a little weird
13 - 14 = "three on ten" and "four on ten"
15 = it's own word "pymtheg"
16 = "one on fifteen" and two on fifteen"
18 = "two nines"
19 = "four on fifteen"
20 = it's own word "ugain/hugain"
21-24 = 1-4 on "hugain"
25 = 10 on "hugain"
26-29 6-9 on "hugain"
30 = 10 on "hugain"
40 = "deugain" (two "hugain")

There is a decimal system now also in use for most numbers, but they use the traditional for ages and dates.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welsh_language#Counting_system

Edited by cymrotom on 10 March 2011 at 9:12pm

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 Message 23 of 25
23 July 2011 at 4:30pm | IP Logged 
It's surprising reading all these comments just how much variety there is in the world in its different cultures, in
base systems.

Another interesting base commonly used, especially in one particular form, is base-13.

In a deck of cards. 54 cards, 4 suits of 13, 2 jokers. In base-10, that's 54, in base-13, it's that magical number 42.
(The meaning of life)


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 Message 24 of 25
04 August 2011 at 6:14pm | IP Logged 
cymrotom wrote:
25 = 10 on "hugain"
30 = 10 on "hugain"

Is this a spelling mistake or are 25 and 30 the same number in Welsh?


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