hjordis Senior Member United States snapshotsoftheworld. Joined 4997 days ago 209 posts - 264 votes Speaks: English* Studies: French, German, Spanish, Japanese
| Message 9 of 19 27 February 2011 at 7:19pm | IP Logged |
Well I didn't get octahedron, but then I almost never use the word octahedron, which I guess falls in line with Iversen's theory.
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Emiliana Diglot Groupie Germany Joined 4925 days ago 81 posts - 98 votes Speaks: German*, English Studies: French, Arabic (classical)
| Message 10 of 19 27 February 2011 at 7:51pm | IP Logged |
this theory is already proven to be wrong. i am too lazy now to search for an adequate example but i read an article about that. in this article it was stated, that this theory only works for texts to which contents you are familiar with or which you expect at least. as example they printed a part of a text from the philosoph emmanuel kant in the described way (letters changed etc.) and it was impossible to understand anything!
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Hencke Tetraglot Moderator Spain Joined 6705 days ago 2340 posts - 2444 votes Speaks: Swedish*, Finnish, EnglishC2, Spanish Studies: Mandarin Personal Language Map
| Message 11 of 19 01 March 2011 at 11:43am | IP Logged |
Marikki wrote:
"Olin lukemaisillani jotakin."
Same, but letters mixed -> "Oiln llliikusemnaai jatkoin." |
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With the added complication that the last word resulting from jumbling up the characters "jatkoin", happens to be a perfectly valid word too but with a very different meaning (jatkoin = I continued) from what you are supposed to guess it as (jotakin = something).
It would also seem pretty obvious that the longer the words the harder they will be to guess, in whatever language.
Edited by Hencke on 01 March 2011 at 11:45am
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Matheus Senior Member Brazil Joined 4892 days ago 208 posts - 312 votes Speaks: Portuguese* Studies: English, French
| Message 12 of 19 11 March 2011 at 5:47pm | IP Logged |
I have read the English, Portuguese and Spanish versions at my normal speed (which is
fast) effortlessly. I don't know whether it was luck or it is normal for everybody. For me
it was absolutely easy. Also I knew this theory before. Always worked with me at least.
Most of times, people misspell words and even reading more than one time, they don't
realise their misspells.
I think it only works with the Latin Alphabet.
Edited by Matheus on 11 March 2011 at 5:48pm
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polyglossia Senior Member FranceRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5215 days ago 205 posts - 255 votes Speaks: French*
| Message 13 of 19 13 March 2011 at 12:08am | IP Logged |
I read the whole sentences effortlessly... though I do think like Mattheus that it works only for latin alphabet and non-agglutinated languages...
@ Iversen :the researcher never said it should work for anybody no matter how much/long they are accustomed to the language... It works if you know the language and have a certain knowledge of it... (That's what I understood according to what I read.. but I may be wrong :) )
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Zgarbas Triglot Newbie Romania goblinjapanese.wordp Joined 4522 days ago 12 posts - 15 votes Speaks: Romanian*, EnglishC2, Japanese Studies: Spanish, Mandarin
| Message 14 of 19 04 January 2012 at 3:54pm | IP Logged |
I recall seeing it in Japanese and it also worked. Sort of. I had to be all kana, since Kanji would have been cheating =).
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Cainntear Pentaglot Senior Member Scotland linguafrankly.blogsp Joined 5822 days ago 4399 posts - 7687 votes Speaks: Lowland Scots, English*, French, Spanish, Scottish Gaelic Studies: Catalan, Italian, German, Irish, Welsh
| Message 15 of 19 07 January 2012 at 6:36pm | IP Logged |
There is no researcher, there is no research.
This is an urban myth -- note the lack of name, and the reference to "a Cambridge college" (which one?).
What is claimed in the story isn't true.
What is true is that language has a lot of redundancy worked in, so we can accommodate a certain amount of error in any piece of written or spoken language, before it starts to take us a noticeable amount of time to decode.
It's a nice party trick, but there's more going on than the message suggests.
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Kartof Bilingual Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 4877 days ago 391 posts - 550 votes Speaks: English*, Bulgarian*, Spanish Studies: Danish
| Message 16 of 19 07 January 2012 at 7:03pm | IP Logged |
Wow! I did not expect to read the Spanish version of this so easily!
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