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| malakhim Triglot Newbie United States Joined 4794 days ago 23 posts - 33 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese, SpanishB2 Studies: Turkish | Message 1 of 10 16 March 2011 at 2:22am | IP Logged | |||||
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What kind of task is learning the Mongolian language?
Is it enjoyable and interesting? What about in terms of difficulty? Is it something monsterous full of difficult features like Korean,Chinese or Russian or is it more manageable like something like Turkish? Just how complicate as a whole is the language? Would it be right to say it is something as complex as Turkish? Or is a more spikey cactus like Korean? Since I wish to learn certain Altaic languages I may choose Mongolian when I have acquired fluency in Turkish. Also since Mongolian girls are so beautiful I would like to learn the language. By the way, my language background and experience is as my profile states. Please tell me how you think I would find learning Mongolian. Please go into detail on individual aspects like Mongolian grammar, cases, verb conjugation, word formation, etc... 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| njblue Diglot Newbie United States Joined 5119 days ago 9 posts - 11 votes Speaks: English*, French | Message 2 of 10 16 March 2011 at 2:46am | IP Logged | |||||
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Here is a video in Mongolian. I think the language sounds very interesting. It reminds me of those native american
languages sort of. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txgmYSF6Q1U 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| FrostBlast Diglot Senior Member Canada Joined 4891 days ago 168 posts - 254 votes  Speaks: French*, English Studies: Spanish, Russian, Swedish, Icelandic | Message 3 of 10 16 March 2011 at 3:21am | IP Logged | |||||
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It sounds very interesting!
Is it me, or do I hear some russian words in there? The girl at 27 seconds sounds like she's saying "Очень." And then, I found it sounds oddly like Klingon... hehe! And that's definitely a language not to be spoken with your mouth full - you'll make one heck of a mess! 3 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| clumsy Octoglot Senior Member Poland lang-8.com/6715Registered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4970 days ago 1116 posts - 1367 votes Speaks: Polish*, English, Japanese, Korean, French, Mandarin, Italian, Vietnamese Studies: Spanish, Arabic (Written), Swedish Studies: Danish, Dari, Kirundi | Message 4 of 10 16 March 2011 at 11:05am | IP Logged | |||||
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FSI rats it as very hard language.
I guess it's due to its grammar. It's definitely harder than Turkish and Korean i would say (when it comes to grammar). However my knowledge is limited so much. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| liddytime Pentaglot Senior Member United States mainlymagyar.wordpre Joined 6021 days ago 693 posts - 1328 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Italian, Portuguese, Galician Studies: Hungarian, Vietnamese, Modern Hebrew, Norwegian, Persian, Arabic (Written) | Message 5 of 10 16 March 2011 at 12:53pm | IP Logged | |||||
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I speak Turkish and I can say that although the two are distantly related ( although some scholars dispute
whether or not Mongolian is truly an Altaic language) , Turkish won't help you much in Mongolian aside from picking out the stray cognate here and there. I found Mongolian much harder than Turkish. The traditional Mongolian script ( which is beautiful and is making a comeback, especially in Inner Mongolia) takes some time to learn although the Cyrillic based Mongolian alphabet is pretty easy to pick up. Spoken Mongolian tends to swallow up sounds which makes it a bit challenging to understand. The grammar is similar to the other Turkic/Altaic languages although I wouldn't say it is necessarily "harder" than the others. That being said, it is an exotic and really cool sounding language. Mongolia is an incredible country which you could spend years exploring and without a knowledge of Mongolian you would be seriously handicapped in your explorations. You can get a ton of free audio courses here: Mongolian Audio Archives Then again you could search for that site that begins with uz and ends in translations that may have additional materials as well. Good luck! Edited by liddytime on 16 March 2011 at 4:57pm 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| malakhim Triglot Newbie United States Joined 4794 days ago 23 posts - 33 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese, SpanishB2 Studies: Turkish | Message 6 of 10 16 March 2011 at 4:11pm | IP Logged | |||||
In concrete, what grammatic features are difficult in mongolian. Could someone please give some examples? 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| liddytime Pentaglot Senior Member United States mainlymagyar.wordpre Joined 6021 days ago 693 posts - 1328 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Italian, Portuguese, Galician Studies: Hungarian, Vietnamese, Modern Hebrew, Norwegian, Persian, Arabic (Written) | Message 7 of 10 16 March 2011 at 5:36pm | IP Logged | |||||
I wouldn't necessarily say the grammar is "hard", it is just "different" than other languages. Some aspects are easy - no gender! No tones! Some are different. -Mongolian is agglutinative which means you add suffixes onto the end of words rather that use separate words. -There are 8 different cases - although they function more like prepositional suffixes. -Phrase structure is roughly SOV but can be altered depending on mood and aspect. -Verbs have several moods/inflections including passive active and co-operative forms. -There are very few English cognates so most words will need to be learned on their own without help from cognates -That dreaded "vowel-harmony" where all the vowels in a word need to agree with each other Seriously though! If you are truly interested in Mongolian and all things Mongolian - go for it! It will not seem so difficult if you are truly passionate about learning it! :-) Edited by liddytime on 16 March 2011 at 11:52pm 3 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| clumsy Octoglot Senior Member Poland lang-8.com/6715Registered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4970 days ago 1116 posts - 1367 votes Speaks: Polish*, English, Japanese, Korean, French, Mandarin, Italian, Vietnamese Studies: Spanish, Arabic (Written), Swedish Studies: Danish, Dari, Kirundi | Message 8 of 10 17 March 2011 at 1:36pm | IP Logged | |||||
I don't remember, but making plurals is difficult. More irregular verbs than in Turkish (Turkish grammar is very regular, once you have remembered some basic rules). Vowel Harmony is a thing common in all Altaic languages (even Korean has it, aand I have read somewhere about Japanese... but maybe not the modern one). In Turkish K|z (I cannot type Turkish i without a dot) means a girl. k|zlar means girls. If it would be kiz, the plural would be kizler. It's just that some vowels go together. There is one Mongolian grammar course for free in Japanese. I learned it only a little bit. I forgot most of it. I remember things like "how are you?" and stuff. However FSI must have some reason to put it together with Thai, Vietnamese, Georgian, Finnish, Estonian as Category II languages with a star. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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