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| Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5173 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes  Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian | Message 9 of 17 29 March 2011 at 8:16pm | IP Logged | |||||
No it doesn't. You do it all the time: meant, rent, lent, rant, mint, mount, font, aunt, can't, don't, etc. 4 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| ruskivyetr Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5273 days ago 769 posts - 962 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Spanish, Russian, Polish, Modern Hebrew | Message 10 of 17 30 March 2011 at 12:32am | IP Logged | |||||
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I say learned exclusively. Using learnt feels awkward to me, although I'm sure I've used it before in writing.
I have a fairly standard American English pronunciation and vocabulary DESPITE growing up in New York City, however I wouldn't go as far to say that every American says it like this. Everybody I know says learned, and if they said learnt I might do a double take, seeing as how it doesn't sound normal. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| CaucusWolf Senior Member United States Joined 5064 days ago 191 posts - 234 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Arabic (Written), Japanese | Message 11 of 17 30 March 2011 at 6:26am | IP Logged | |||||
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I remember an old thread a while back talking about this. I personally use learned because American English makes it so I automatically see learnt as odd. Since one gets points off for this in an American school, its by default hardwired into me.
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| Gareth Groupie United States Joined 5250 days ago 51 posts - 67 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Cherokee, French | Message 12 of 17 30 March 2011 at 6:37am | IP Logged | |||||
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Arekkusu, you're right. I guess I just extrapolated from saying *dreamed instead of dreamt. Thanks for pointing this out.
Arekkusu, where does your username come from? 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5173 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian | Message 13 of 17 30 March 2011 at 3:16pm | IP Logged | |||||
It's my first name in Japanese. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| tbone Diglot Groupie United States Joined 4783 days ago 92 posts - 132 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Spanish, Russian | Message 14 of 17 30 March 2011 at 4:07pm | IP Logged | |||||
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It wouldn't be odd to hear 'learnt' from an American, and you'd almost expect if they were speaking with a twang.
There's also the two-syllable version, as in "he is more learned than I". I bet you can't use 'learnt' in that case. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| CS Groupie United States Joined 4920 days ago 49 posts - 74 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Icelandic, Latin, French | Message 15 of 17 30 March 2011 at 4:33pm | IP Logged | |||||
Personally, I often drop /t/ and /d/ after /n/, especially in informal or rapid speech. It's probably conditioned on something, but I'm not sure what. A somewhat similar phenomenon is described in Principles of Phonetics by Peter Ladefoged. I also say "learned" rather than learnt, or at least I think I have something closer to [d] than [t] there. And I definitely would spell it "learned." (American English speaker). Edited by CS on 30 March 2011 at 4:45pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| lingoleng Senior Member Germany Joined 5090 days ago 605 posts - 1290 votes | Message 16 of 17 30 March 2011 at 5:53pm | IP Logged | |||||
Voiceless nasals are a rare thing, only few languages have them, and English is not known to me as one of them. What may be devoiced in the case of "learnt" is the plosive "d" -> "t". (There is the phenomenon of unreleased consonants, which are like not really, fully pronounced, but I am sure that is not what we are talking about in this case.) 1 person has voted this message useful |
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