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sgh78
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 Message 33 of 39
22 April 2012 at 9:14pm | IP Logged 
@Hampie I like your message because you found a lot of words.
When I think to power , force or craft I can to say each word have a identity like the signification is different. Examples :
1.Power :
A.Power of a politician
B.Power of character like power of a superhero of comics.
C.Power of a radio signal.

2.Force :
A.Force of a person.

3.Craft :
A.Like A in force.

Edited by sgh78 on 22 April 2012 at 9:15pm

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tiyafeh
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 Message 34 of 39
22 April 2012 at 11:21pm | IP Logged 
Hampie wrote:
sgh78 wrote:
I find Anglish funny , what are synonyms of these words
in my list with a non Germanic root ? :
1.Difficult (I know "hard" but hard mean a lot of things).
2.Original (I don't find a equivalent with a Germanic word).
3.Concept (Like for original).
4.Force (I know a equivalent , a word with Germanic root , "craft").
5.Liberty (Free with a Germanic root).
6.Forest (I don't find a equivalent with a word have a Germanic root).
7.Hour (I don't know a equivalent of this word with a Germanic root).
8.Music (What is the equivalent with a Germanic root ?).
9.Evidence (I know the word "proof" but evidence is often used in the juridic context
but proof is often used in a
technologic or scientfic context like computing , electronic , physical).
10.All these examples to say I find this project interessant.

1. Hard is fine, it works for German -- their one even means heavy!
2. Odd, weird, one-of-a-kind
3. Way (of doing), plan, blueprint
4. Power, might, strength,
5. Freedom, that one was easy!
6. Woods, weald (cognate of Wald perhaps?), woodland
7. Time, while, tide, moment, etc. etc.
8. Singing, song, playing, hymning
9. Proof is absolutely fine


Plan, blueprint, power, moment, hymning and proof are all borrowed from Latin or Old
French, and according to Wiktionary 'odd' comes from Old Norse.
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tritone
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 Message 35 of 39
27 April 2012 at 6:45pm | IP Logged 
Iversen wrote:
tritone wrote:

The only Teutonic words we should get rid of are a handful of newer borrowings which mostly come from Dutch, and are hard to say and spell, little-known, or not needed anyway like "Glockenspiel", "halt", "angst", "zeitgeist", "gestalt" and more.


Did you mean German?


Yes, but "German" is a Latin word that we are trying to stay away from.

In Dutchland (Germany) they speak Dutch, and in the Netherlands they speak Netherlandish.
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tritone
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 Message 36 of 39
27 April 2012 at 8:04pm | IP Logged 
I think that trying to write in Anglish can also be a helpful way to broaden your knowledge of the English tongue, and learn more English words that we don't say everyday, as well as other meanings of words that we already do use.

byspell:

The word "sunder" and words kin to it can get rid of a lot of latin/french words and sayings.

-to separate

"separate them."

sunder them.


- apart

"Pull them apart"

Pull them asunder.


-miscelaneous/various items

"The box was filled with various items."

The box was filled with sundries.


- multicolored.

"a multicolored shirt"

a sundry hued shirt.


-various

"various people from all over the world"

sundry folk from all over the world.



other meanings of everyday English words:


-Most folk don't know that the word "dear" means expensive or valuable.

"That's expensive!"

That's dear.


-The word fare means to go or to travel.


"He traveled to the Netherlands."

He fared to the Netherlands.


"a traveler"

a wayfarer



I could go on and on. All of these byspells are lawful new English words and 'usages', however weird they may sound. But if we say them more, they'll stop sounding funny.

















Edited by tritone on 27 April 2012 at 8:11pm

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 Message 37 of 39
11 November 2012 at 11:36pm | IP Logged 
Check these out people:


How We'd Talk If The English Had Won in 1066. Cowley, D. Bright Pen Pub., 2009. ISBN-13: 978-0755211678.

The Rebirth of England and English: The Vision of William Barnes. Phillips, A. Hockwold-cum-Wilton: Anglo-Saxon Books, 1996. ISBN: 1-898281-17-3.

Going Native: The Regeneration of Saxon English. (Publication of the American Dialect Society 69). Baron, D.E. Tuscaloosa: University of Alabama Press, 1981. [No ISBN].

Our Englishness. Linsell, T. (ed.). Hockwold-cum-Wilton: Anglo-Saxon Books, 2000. ISBN: 1-898281-24-6.

Pure Saxon English, or, Americans to the front. Molee, Elias. Nabu Press (March 25, 2012). ISBN-13: 978-1278789880.

Germanik English: A scheme for uniting the English and German languages on a Saxon and English bases [!] in such a way as to obtain a language. Molee, Elias. University of Michigan Library (September 29, 2009).

See also here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linguistic_purism_in_English

See also here: http://www.asbooks.co.uk/
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Jamopy
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 Message 38 of 39
31 August 2013 at 8:07pm | IP Logged 
tiyafeh wrote:
Hampie wrote:
sgh78 wrote:
I find Anglish funny , what are
synonyms of these words
in my list with a non Germanic root ? :
1.Difficult (I know "hard" but hard mean a lot of things).
2.Original (I don't find a equivalent with a Germanic word).
3.Concept (Like for original).
4.Force (I know a equivalent , a word with Germanic root , "craft").
5.Liberty (Free with a Germanic root).
6.Forest (I don't find a equivalent with a word have a Germanic root).
7.Hour (I don't know a equivalent of this word with a Germanic root).
8.Music (What is the equivalent with a Germanic root ?).
9.Evidence (I know the word "proof" but evidence is often used in the juridic context
but proof is often used in a
technologic or scientfic context like computing , electronic , physical).
10.All these examples to say I find this project interessant.

1. Hard is fine, it works for German -- their one even means heavy!
2. Odd, weird, one-of-a-kind
3. Way (of doing), plan, blueprint
4. Power, might, strength,
5. Freedom, that one was easy!
6. Woods, weald (cognate of Wald perhaps?), woodland
7. Time, while, tide, moment, etc. etc.
8. Singing, song, playing, hymning
9. Proof is absolutely fine


Plan, blueprint, power, moment, hymning and proof are all borrowed from Latin or Old
French, and according to Wiktionary 'odd' comes from Old Norse.


Blueprint is English, and Odd is fine as ON is considered alright for Anglish.
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montmorency
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 Message 39 of 39
01 September 2013 at 1:11am | IP Logged 
You seem to have revived an oldish, but interesting-ish thread.

But (without having read the Wikia or any of those books), I find the concept of
Anglish fairly flawed.

There was never a pure English language, just a mixture of the various languages of the
invading Germanic tribes, mixed with the language of the invading Scandinavian tribes
(another flavour of Germanic), and before the Anglo-Saxon-Justes arrived on these
shores, we'd had about 400 years of Roman influence, so if anything Latin has a prior
claim to be the "English" language more so than "Anglo-Saxon", although of course
Brythonic or Brittonic Celtic had a prior claim before that.

As a way of studying the interesting process by which English came to be formed, I can
see it has some value, but I see no value in trying to define some purely imaginary
"pure" form of English. It has never existed.


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