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| FrostBlast Diglot Senior Member Canada Joined 4893 days ago 168 posts - 254 votes  Speaks: French*, English Studies: Spanish, Russian, Swedish, Icelandic | Message 17 of 22 06 May 2011 at 3:19pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
If that is indeed the case, then I think they should be considered to have a life of their own. Also, can one make neologisms in either of those languages? For example, the Russian word for "airplane" is "самолет", which is a "made-up word" that basically means "it flies on its own." Can that be achieved in Tolkien's languages? 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Volte Tetraglot Senior Member Switzerland Joined 6233 days ago 4474 posts - 6726 votes Speaks: English*, Esperanto, German, Italian Studies: French, Finnish, Mandarin, Japanese | Message 18 of 22 06 May 2011 at 6:31pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
As others have said, the lexicons left by Tolkien himself are somewhat limited. I'd be amazed if creating neologisms wasn't a significant part of what people are doing when they want to actually write something new. Conlangs tend to be quite rich in neologisms when they start being actually used by people who want to write new things, even before they have a fluent speaker community. I haven't looked at the communities of Tolkien's languages enough to verify that this is the case for them, but I'd be amazed if they were the exception to this. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Cainntear Pentaglot Senior Member Scotland linguafrankly.blogsp Joined 5805 days ago 4399 posts - 7687 votes Speaks: Lowland Scots, English*, French, Spanish, Scottish Gaelic Studies: Catalan, Italian, German, Irish, Welsh | Message 19 of 22 07 May 2011 at 9:50am | IP Logged | ||||||||
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While conlanging is an interesting hobby (and I was myself noodling around with an idea for a conlang a couple of weeks back), it's a very different hobby from learning "normal" languages. It's not elitist to play golf at a golf club and tell footballers to play elsewhere, is it?
I have no problem with conlangs being left out here. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Cainntear Pentaglot Senior Member Scotland linguafrankly.blogsp Joined 5805 days ago 4399 posts - 7687 votes Speaks: Lowland Scots, English*, French, Spanish, Scottish Gaelic Studies: Catalan, Italian, German, Irish, Welsh | Message 21 of 22 07 May 2011 at 5:40pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
I have a horrible feeling that'll turn out to be a genuine quote from a Klingon phrasebook.... ;-) 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Volte Tetraglot Senior Member Switzerland Joined 6233 days ago 4474 posts - 6726 votes Speaks: English*, Esperanto, German, Italian Studies: French, Finnish, Mandarin, Japanese | Message 22 of 22 08 May 2011 at 1:38am | IP Logged | ||||||||
In a word, no - it is not a very different hobby. Learning the largest conlangs is quite similar to learning a common living language. Learning smaller ones is somewhat comparable to making a serious study of poorly attributed dead languages, in my opinion - which is something several people here do. Creating conlangs is an entirely different hobby, but that is not what anyone here has been talking about in this thread, before your post. The rule of this forum, as I understand it, is that a language will be added if at least one person is making a serious study of it. There are multiple people here who care about Sindarin. I'm not one of them, but I still would prefer to see it added. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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