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| hrhenry Octoglot Senior Member United States languagehopper.blogs Joined 4930 days ago 1871 posts - 3642 votes  Speaks: English*, SpanishC2, ItalianC2, Norwegian, Catalan, Galician, Turkish, Portuguese Studies: Polish, Indonesian, Ojibwe | Message 49 of 65 23 April 2011 at 11:29pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
I wouldn't be surprised at all, now that you mention it. A lot of Scottish landed in that part of the country. Up here in the north central states of the US there's a lot of Norwegian ancestry. As a kid everybody joked that to form a question all you had to do was surround a basic statement with "So ... then?" - "So, you're going to the store, then?", which is a Norwegian construct. I think all over the US the speech patterns have been influenced by the immigration of different peoples. R. == Edited by hrhenry on 23 April 2011 at 11:30pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| PonyGirl Groupie United States Joined 4819 days ago 54 posts - 70 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German | Message 50 of 65 24 April 2011 at 4:54am | IP Logged | ||||||||
*cough* "he and I" *cough* 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| cntrational Triglot Groupie India Joined 4927 days ago 49 posts - 66 votes Speaks: Hindi, Telugu, English* Studies: French | Message 51 of 65 24 April 2011 at 7:32am | IP Logged | ||||||||
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"he and I" and "me and him" are both acceptable.
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| Jinx Triglot Senior Member Germany reverbnation.co Joined 5493 days ago 1085 posts - 1879 votes Speaks: English*, German, French Studies: Catalan, Dutch, Esperanto, Croatian, Serbian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Italian, Spanish, Yiddish | Message 52 of 65 24 April 2011 at 9:39pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
I'm *pretty* sure Cainntear was making a joke... 3 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Keilan Senior Member Canada Joined 4886 days ago 125 posts - 241 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German | Message 53 of 65 25 April 2011 at 9:31am | IP Logged | ||||||||
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Is this topic really just going to degenerate into talking about all the "mistakes" that really bug us?
But that I/me thing... man that's annoying. I mean, it's just as bad as when an English speaker declines a noun in the Nominative case when they want the Accusative. Wait... what's that? English nouns don't have a nominative or accusative declination? We determine thematic role via word order? And that is exactly why we don't need different nominative and accusative pronouns. I/me is going to go the way of the rest of the English case system, so we might as well get used to the so called "errors" now. Edited by Keilan on 26 April 2011 at 10:19pm 3 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||
| tractor Tetraglot Senior Member Norway Joined 5253 days ago 1349 posts - 2292 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, English, Spanish, Catalan Studies: French, German, Latin | Message 54 of 65 25 April 2011 at 10:13am | IP Logged | ||||||||
Actually, nouns haven't got conjugations in German or Latin either. They are declined. :-) 4 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||
| vilas Pentaglot Senior Member Italy Joined 6760 days ago 531 posts - 722 votes Speaks: Spanish, Italian*, English, French, Portuguese | Message 55 of 65 25 April 2011 at 12:06pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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I moved from Torino to Bologna few years ago and in the beginning , sometimes it was difficult to me to understand some words or idioms that bolognese people say often . These idioms are dialectal sentences literally translated from the dialect in standard Italian and when I say to them that is not Italian, usually they are surprised . They believe that this is standard Italian, and sometimes it is possibe to find these words in the local newspapers or even in the Municipality announcements .
They say " ho imparato" (I have learned) instead of "ho capito" ( I have understood) they say " dammi il tiro" (give me the hook)(???) instead " aprimi la porta" (please open the door) they call "rusco" the rubbish ( "immondizia") - Then I found in internet dictionaries of bolognese slang and now I understand almost everybody here. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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