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| kraemder Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4966 days ago 1497 posts - 1648 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: German, Spanish, Japanese | Message 953 of 1702 17 May 2013 at 8:31pm | IP Logged |
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It would be nice if I could do furigana heh. My app doesn't support it. It's not a big enough deal for me to switch to Anki though. I am just reading Potter and adding sentences as I go - cut and paste. Some sentences have 1 new vocab and others more. I'm skipping the kanji meanings after all. It would be doable but the extra effort adds up heh. And I don't think it's that useful really since I know the meanings of most kanji anyway. Actually all I've seen this session so far. That'll change later I know. I think I'll do it for non RTK kanji only. My vocabulary has the hiragana for the word so I can pronounce the kanji correctly. I've used ANKI a bit and I hated seeing okurigana as part of the furigana too. Really annoyed me lol. (a little editing fixes it of course).
In general I am comfortable enough with the grammar to understand stuff. There's a few things that confuse me of course. Anyone know this: 我々の世界じゃみんな知っとるのに。。。。 知っとるのに。。 is the part that I don't get.. のに can be a lot of things.. I suppose although, or in spite of the fact or something.. it's the 知っとる. Is this a dialect pronunciation? Is it a valid grammatical form? It's Hagrid talking here so I'm inclined to believe it's ungrammatical.. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| stifa Triglot Senior Member Norway lang-8.com/448715 Joined 4655 days ago 629 posts - 813 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, EnglishC2, German Studies: Japanese, Spanish | Message 954 of 1702 17 May 2013 at 9:19pm | IP Logged |
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...sounds like Stereotypic Old Man Speak. A quick google search showed that it simply
mean しっている http://bulo.hujiang.com/question/24414/ Apparently it's: 知っている -> 知っておる -> 知っとる Someone claimed it was Kyusyu Googling stuff like that usually leads to Yahoo Answers! style sites. On the topic of Harry Potter, what is マクゴナガル先生's English name? 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| kraemder Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4966 days ago 1497 posts - 1648 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Spanish, Japanese | Message 955 of 1702 17 May 2013 at 9:26pm | IP Logged |
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知っといる is to humbly know.. interesting. I can't get my keyboard to enter the kanji correctly as it's pronounced, I have to trick it.
Minerva McGonagall I had to use Google for that ;). I can't spell it very well. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| kraemder Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4966 days ago 1497 posts - 1648 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Spanish, Japanese | Message 956 of 1702 18 May 2013 at 8:18am | IP Logged |
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As I make these sentences, I can't help thinking this is sort of going to make me do something I was never able to make myself do before. Re-read stuff I've already read. I knew it would be good for my language, but I never could make myself re-read a book I'd just finished in my target language. I did listen to audio books multiple times but I could never reread something. I'm making a lot of sentences as I go. I'm even making sentences for words if I know the word but didn't recognize it spelled out properly with the kanji. Those will be really easy obviously. It's tempting to make more decks to test the words without the sentences but I'm resisting. I'm going to give this sentence thing 2 weeks without deviating.
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| kraemder Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4966 days ago 1497 posts - 1648 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Spanish, Japanese | Message 957 of 1702 19 May 2013 at 6:17am | IP Logged |
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Well the whole sentence thing is going pretty well. I have a lot more sentences than I can study but I'll get
them into the known group soon enough. I'm reading as much as possible and it's getting more fun as I go. And I've started reviewing RTK again. It's easy as you'd expect. Very easy so far. But I think I need the review. I'll do RTK 3 when I finish RTK. I think I might try it with the ios app. It seems a lot of people like it. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| kraemder Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4966 days ago 1497 posts - 1648 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Spanish, Japanese | Message 958 of 1702 20 May 2013 at 8:42am | IP Logged |
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I stumbled on a thread on the remembering the kanji forums about
redoing RTK so that it used japanese keywords instead if English ones. I spent some time playing with their deck and seeing if I could make it work for me and was even adding native sounds with rikai. But inevitably going down the list I encountered some less used kanji and the deck even had a word that wasn't in rikai. Which got me thinking it would be a waste. In English learning these less used kanji is so easy you might as well do it.. I think they might be used in named it something later. But learning Japanese for it would really add to the study time. And that got me thinking that if I already knew jaoanese.. Like a japanese native.. Well.. Learning kanji wouldn't be so hard at all. Think about it - we can learn kanji super fast with the Heisig method. It's the Japanese part that slows one down a ton. It doesn't seem quite as crazy to me that they use this writing system. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| kraemder Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4966 days ago 1497 posts - 1648 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Spanish, Japanese | Message 959 of 1702 23 May 2013 at 1:27am | IP Logged |
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I got 7 hours sleep last night, which is a lot better than what I usually get. And it is a lot easier to focus. If you're like me and you are usually sleep deprived, easily the best way to help your learning is to sleep better. I don't know if I have the discipline for it. I am starting a new work schedule the week after next though which should help. I'm switching from a 5:50 am start time to a 12:30 pm start time. Yeah it stinks getting out late but I shouldn't have any issues getting enough sleep. One would hope.
I've been doing the sentence deck thing but I broke down and made a regular vocab deck in the srs built into the Japanese dictionary for iOS. I love that dictionary. Oh well. Gonna go read some more Potter. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| kujichagulia Senior Member Japan Joined 4629 days ago 1031 posts - 1571 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese, Portuguese | Message 960 of 1702 23 May 2013 at 4:45am | IP Logged |
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I understand how you feel. Making a vocab deck is so much easier. Basically what I'm doing now with my Anki deck is, if I feel like putting sentences, I do that, but if I feel tired, I just put the word in. If later on I find that I need a sentence for it, I'll edit it.
By the way, if I get just seven hours of sleep, I feel sleep deprived. I need at least eight. But I'm probably not as young as you are. :) 1 person has voted this message useful |
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