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| dampingwire Bilingual Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4452 days ago 1185 posts - 1513 votes  Speaks: English*, Italian*, French Studies: Japanese | Message 1385 of 1702 25 May 2014 at 1:46pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
I saw earlier this week that you'd made it but I've not found the time to watch until now. Well done. I'm certainly not brave enough to speak Japanese on camera. I'm going to see if I can find Fairy Tale on a streaming site to see if it's as straightforward as you say it is :-) 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| kraemder Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4971 days ago 1497 posts - 1648 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Spanish, Japanese | Message 1386 of 1702 25 May 2014 at 7:37pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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Thanks. I guess I'll take brave as a compliment. Although I might take it to mean.. Your Japanese is that bad
and yet you let people listen to it??? Which it kind of is that bad lol. But so is everyone else's who's studying Japanese. I really do think fairy tale is easier than most anime. Although I have to give myself some credit I think for getting better at Japanese and learning more vocabulary. I'm on episode 140 or something and the shows seem to have lost some of the quality. There's some new villains called the jiggle butt gang. I'm gonna have to find out if the series gets back on track but it's really good up until the jiggle butt episode. Which is around 140 or so. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| kraemder Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4971 days ago 1497 posts - 1648 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Spanish, Japanese | Message 1387 of 1702 26 May 2014 at 12:28am | IP Logged | ||||||||
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Apparently I'm in the midst of a filler arc on fairy tale so that's why I'm thinking its weak. It did get a little more
interesting but I'm looking forward to it ending. It's the only filler arc in the series I'm told. Anyway, if you get to a group of villains called the jiggle butt gang, it's ok to skip and move on. I'm thinking of doing YouTube videos in German. Just language log videos. I'm either brave or stupid. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| dampingwire Bilingual Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4452 days ago 1185 posts - 1513 votes Speaks: English*, Italian*, French Studies: Japanese | Message 1388 of 1702 26 May 2014 at 12:52am | IP Logged | ||||||||
Wow - I'll have to be more careful :-) I meant it as a compliment.
I'll have to remember to stop before episode 140 then :-) I've been trying to watch drama more than anime mostly to avoid the fantasy type stuff and to hear "real Japanese", but everything I hear suggests that anime is easier language and so should make a better starting point. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| kraemder Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4971 days ago 1497 posts - 1648 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Spanish, Japanese | Message 1389 of 1702 26 May 2014 at 7:19am | IP Logged | ||||||||
I don't know exactly which episode they show up in. I think you'll realize it though when they do. Immediately. I wouldn't say you should give up on the show at that point.. I'm told it gets back to 'normal'. Just feel free to skip an episode or two.. I guess I'll post my own opinion on what episodes to avoid. I just started another anime that seems easy to follow w/o subs (hey, maybe it's just me getting smarter... ) These links are to Crunchyroll. Haikyuu!! Fairy Tail Fairy Tail is missing some episodes on Crunchy but you can see the first few and if you're still interested go check out the missing episodes somewhere else I guess.. Haikyuu!! is a sports anime about a short kid who loves volley ball. He apparently jumps super high to make up for being really short. One of my Japanese tutors are JOI mentioned this anime and I didn't think it was on Crunchy but I just found it. It's fun. I'm gonna go try a nice 'hard' anime and see if I can enjoy it without subs.. 蟲師 むしし Chances are subs will be needed though. I recall how I tried it with Japanese subs and failed.. *edit* Don't worry that you meant it as a compliment. That's just my sense of humor.. to put myself down. Well it's also a reflection on being a bit insecure about my Japanese since it obviously isn't super good. That said.. I think I might actually make time to work on my accent. I think shadowing would be good. Edited by kraemder on 26 May 2014 at 7:21am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| kraemder Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4971 days ago 1497 posts - 1648 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Spanish, Japanese | Message 1390 of 1702 27 May 2014 at 7:13pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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As I often do I was thinking about my Japanese while working out (yesterday under the very hot Arizona sun
drinking boiling water from my water bottle) and my thoughts were a bit different than usual. Recently I have hit some sort of turning point where I prefer watching anime without subs. All anime regardless if difficulty. I was able to follow the gist of 蟲師 pretty well except for the intro yesterday even. For sure I don't always understand but it's enough. The subs distract from focusing on Japanese and i just don't like them. Which makes me think I'm hitting the big goal I had for learning this language in the first place and also the only goal I felt I could achieve. I figured I could learn to understand anime more or less without subs. Becoming fully literate and speaking correct Japanese was more of a goal pushed on me by being in a Japanese class. So I can actually see an end to the constant drilling and SRS. And also updating this log (if you can believe that). Not yet though. I have 60 odd lessons still with JOI and I am not going to waste those and I still want to do the JLPT N2. Since that's in December I suppose I'll be updating for the rest of this year. I'm thinking what I'll do after that. I think I'll probably just casually study when I'm in the mood. Of course, I will keep watching anime and so I suspect I'll keep getting a little better regardless. I don't really see myself reading Japanese books in my free time to relax the way I might with German. But maybe manga since they're easier. I'm not really sure. It's just weird how I started this log years ago and now I'm thinking about ending it. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| g-bod Diglot Senior Member United KingdomRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5769 days ago 1485 posts - 2002 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese Studies: French, German | Message 1391 of 1702 28 May 2014 at 7:31pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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Congratulations on making a breakthrough with your listening! That's really exciting news. Keep it up and the JLPT listening exam will be like a walk in the park. Never mind the fact that you've opened the door to a whole new world of native materials!
Although I am a little surprised that making such progress leads you to considering ending your log. Maybe you should work out when the temperature drops a little... I also have doubts over what I can achieve with respect to literacy in Japanese, but I've decided I'm going to read 10,000 pages before I decide to give up for good. In any case, 10,000 pages of tadoku actually sounds much less intimidating to me than 10,000 Anki sentence cards... 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| kraemder Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4971 days ago 1497 posts - 1648 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Spanish, Japanese | Message 1392 of 1702 29 May 2014 at 12:14am | IP Logged | ||||||||
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Yeah. Although my progress is gradual I don't 'test' myself that often by going at anime hard w/o subs too much so sometimes I can really see a difference. I don't know what'll happen but I just think back to German and how once I got so I could read comfortably.. well there wasn't any motivation to study really. I just let it go. It seems to me I'll probably do that with Japanese too.. but not yet. I just can kind of see that happening. I was watching ハンターXハンター and although I got ok amounts of the dialogue, the narrator for the show went right over my head. Everything he said. Which makes me want to dig down and start studying.. heh. Which means I'm not at a point yet where I would stop doing this log. But we'll see. I kind of look at your log though and how you stopped but it turned out to just be a break and you came back, even if you updated less often you were still back.
I just had a funny feeling. Usually I go ride my bike for a workout and kind of think about Japanese (and stuff) and how I'll never get where I want to be and wonder how I can study harder/smarter. And now it's like I'm actually getting to a point where I'll be happy. I'll keep studying kanji and stuff at least for the rest of the year but after JLPT I might just kick back and watch anime and only look up words once in a while. There isn't much need for a log if it's so laid back like that. For the past few years Japanese has kind of been this huge obstacle, a frantic obsession. Finally I might get a bit of freedom XD. Or I might go to Japan... 1 person has voted this message useful |
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