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| kraemder Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4965 days ago 1497 posts - 1648 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: German, Spanish, Japanese | Message 529 of 1702 15 September 2012 at 7:30am | IP Logged | ||
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I tried out iKnow.jp. I really liked it. If it were free I'd be using it. It's not free so I have to consider if it's ideal
or not. They have nice preset lists of vocabulary, native audio, and sentences again with native audio. But I'm really trying to learn the kanji for words I do. The decks I make on my own include the kanji meanings which I use to remember how to spell the word using the kanji. Their site/app (they have a nice iPad app too) doesn't include this. I'm debating how important it is for me. I actually do remember the meanings of the kanji anyway most of the time for most kanji I see anyway but I like to be able to quickly double check myself. They let you double check the stroke order of a kanji by clicking on the kanji for more info and frankly I'm confused why they'd give stroke order w/o the meaning. Oh well. meh. How much do I want those sentences with native pronunciation? My Japanese really seems to be getting better. I'm watching Gilgamesh and I understand tons of what they're saying. I am guessing it's just that this anime happens to use lots of vocab I've studied but it's pretty cool. I watched Rashomon for class today and I definitely didn't understand tons of the dialogue there only bits and pieces. (it's an old classic from 1950) 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Brun Ugle Diglot Senior Member Norway brunugle.wordpress.c Joined 6401 days ago 1292 posts - 1766 votes Speaks: English*, NorwegianC1 Studies: Japanese, Esperanto, Spanish, Finnish | Message 530 of 1702 15 September 2012 at 8:43am | IP Logged | ||
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I'd say iKnow is worth it. I've been using it since February and am now on Core 4000. It's fabulous. I use the spoken sentences for both listen-repeat and for shadowing, alternating between them. The way they do the reviews is great too, because they gradually change the way they ask you, making it gradually harder.
If you really want to check the meaning of the individual kanji, turn on rikaisama, mouse over the kanji and click shift a couple of times to switch to the kanji dictionary. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| g-bod Diglot Senior Member United KingdomRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5763 days ago 1485 posts - 2002 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese Studies: French, German | Message 531 of 1702 15 September 2012 at 9:33am | IP Logged | ||
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When I last logged in to iKnow they gave me 5 trial sessions. If you have something like that I'd just say trial it over a few days and see how much you learn. The native audio is great but for me personally I just found I couldn't learn new stuff from the format of it. I know some people who have learned loads from it though, so if it does work for you it will be worth the money.
What did you think of Rashomon? I've not sat down with a classic like that for ages. Will they be getting you to watch any Ozu films as well? 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Brun Ugle Diglot Senior Member Norway brunugle.wordpress.c Joined 6401 days ago 1292 posts - 1766 votes Speaks: English*, NorwegianC1 Studies: Japanese, Esperanto, Spanish, Finnish | Message 532 of 1702 15 September 2012 at 12:59pm | IP Logged | ||
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That with only 5 trials is kind of dumb. You don't really get to see how it works. I was a little skeptical after the trial, but I signed up anyway because several people recommended it. Now I'm glad I did. In my opinion though, they should let you do one entire step (100 words) all the way through rather than just 5 sessions.
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| g-bod Diglot Senior Member United KingdomRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5763 days ago 1485 posts - 2002 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese Studies: French, German | Message 533 of 1702 15 September 2012 at 5:02pm | IP Logged | ||
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Yeah I had used it on and off before it went behind the pay wall and had already used it enough to know that the format was just not for me. I just prefer to meet new words in other contexts. It's a personal preference rather than a flaw with the system. I used to quite like the dictation feature they had, but for me personally it's not enough to justify the cost.
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| kraemder Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4965 days ago 1497 posts - 1648 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Spanish, Japanese | Message 534 of 1702 15 September 2012 at 6:22pm | IP Logged | ||
I liked it. I was a little frustrated over the low quality of the audio since I'm obviously trying to understand the Japanese myself. But the story was very interesting and I liked the acting quite a bit - the guy who played the villain was particularly dead on I thought. We had to answer questions about it regarding whose story we felt was most believable and I pretty much didn't believe anyone. I didn't do any research online on the film - someone mentioned a psychological effect or whatnot being named after the film. I'm pretty curious about that (I had no idea heh, feel a little ignorant now). I don't think we'll be watching any more films for this class - we've got a couple books on the reading list. It's not too ambitious a class (which I for one am glad for heh). 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| kraemder Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4965 days ago 1497 posts - 1648 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Spanish, Japanese | Message 535 of 1702 15 September 2012 at 6:28pm | IP Logged | ||
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I'm tempted to give it a try. I probably won't be using the desktop version though - I like the iPad one and I
prefer to study on my iPad anyway. I can switch out to my dictionary app and lookup the word for the kanji definitions.. it's just a few moments more than what I'd have to do in my app.
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| kraemder Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4965 days ago 1497 posts - 1648 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Spanish, Japanese | Message 536 of 1702 15 September 2012 at 6:56pm | IP Logged | ||
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I'm trying iKnow out. Well beyond the trial which I had already used up before I posted here about it. I didn't
even get through any of my first five sessions but it was enough to give me a taste of how it works and I love the sentences a lot. So I spent 12 dollars on a months subscription... cheaper than Rosetta stone which I think I will be cancelling anyway. Not exactly cheap though heh. But if I use it every day I think it's worth it.. And I don't have to make the decks and thats a good time saver and helps justify the cost. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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