cadomniel Groupie Canada senseandsanity.com Joined 7007 days ago 88 posts - 90 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Spanish, Esperanto, French, Italian
| Message 1 of 5 22 April 2006 at 5:57pm | IP Logged |
I was reading a book about modeling with NLP and Robert Dilts talks about a polyglot in Vancouver, BC who was in the Guiness Book of records in 1985 for knowing the most languages. Apparently, he spoke 42 languages by the time he was 38. Powell Janulus certified as a court interpreter in 32 languages. From the little information I've found on him he had a language school in Vancouver.
I watched a seminar from 1985 given by John Grinder, the cofounder of NLP, he also mentions this Janulus fellow. He claims that he can attain 'first fluency' in a language in 7hrs...John Grinder is himself an accomplished linguist and polyglot.
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fanatic Octoglot Senior Member Australia speedmathematics.com Joined 6958 days ago 1152 posts - 1818 votes Speaks: English*, German, French, Afrikaans, Italian, Spanish, Russian, Dutch Studies: Swedish, Norwegian, Polish, Modern Hebrew, Malay, Mandarin, Esperanto
| Message 2 of 5 23 April 2006 at 12:47am | IP Logged |
I wonder what he means by attaining "first fluency"?
Also, does it mean a total of 7 hours' study or seven hours straight? After a total of 7 hours learning a language with Assimil you have completed around 14 to 21 lessons and you certainly have a "first fluency". You have learnt the most frequent words and the words that hold the language together.
If he was certified as a court reporter in 32 languages you could say he must have been fluent in those languages. He definitely qualifies as a polyglot.
EDIT: What is the name of the book?
Edited by fanatic on 23 April 2006 at 12:48am
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tomasus Pentaglot Groupie Czech Republic Joined 6844 days ago 54 posts - 56 votes Speaks: Slovak, Czech*, EnglishC1, German, Russian
| Message 3 of 5 23 April 2006 at 5:30am | IP Logged |
Here is an earlier thread about Powell Janulus
Do they (Dilts, Grinder) cover him also in any other book besides Dynamic Learning?
Edited by tomasus on 23 April 2006 at 5:32am
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JasonChoi Diglot Senior Member Korea, South Joined 6171 days ago 274 posts - 298 votes Speaks: English*, Korean Studies: Mandarin, Cantonese, Latin
| Message 4 of 5 28 June 2007 at 10:58am | IP Logged |
I've been trying to find as much as I can on this man. Unfortunately there really isn't much on him. There is an interesting article that was written 9 years ago. Also, Steve Kaufmann's site has some comments regarding him:
http://thelinguist.blogs.com/how_to_learn_english_and/2006/0 4/do_people_reall.html
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JasonChoi Diglot Senior Member Korea, South Joined 6171 days ago 274 posts - 298 votes Speaks: English*, Korean Studies: Mandarin, Cantonese, Latin
| Message 5 of 5 28 June 2007 at 11:22am | IP Logged |
I also watched the video that cadomniel mentioned. In the video, John Grinder defines first fluency as:
"behaviorally defined competency whereby someone can speak with enough fluency in a language as, not their native language, that native speakers of a language in the contextual context and culture are comfortable talking with them"
Quite confusing, isn't it?
-Jason
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