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| Kounotori Triglot Senior Member Finland Joined 5132 days ago 136 posts - 264 votes  Speaks: Finnish*, English, Russian Studies: Mandarin | Message 9 of 16 18 July 2011 at 9:27am | IP Logged | ||
Well, there is Kuvake. And Alaston Suomi... Edited by Kounotori on 18 July 2011 at 9:28am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| graceland Diglot Newbie United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4786 days ago 5 posts - 5 votes Speaks: English*, Mandarin Studies: Korean, Finnish | Message 10 of 16 23 July 2011 at 6:54am | IP Logged | ||
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Thanks cathrynm and Kounotori, I'll check those other later.
Okay, so I've kind of run into a wall and am confused about grammar. I just need some kind of translation of these words endings so I can finally understand what I am trying to memorize. For example like: Kauppa kaupassa kaupasta kauppaan kaupoissa kaupoista kauppoinhin Does kaupassa mean to shop or just shopping? Sorry if it's a dumb question I'm just getting confused trying to understand the case endings :P 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Chung Diglot Senior Member Joined 6944 days ago 4228 posts - 8259 votes 20 sounds Speaks: English*, French Studies: Polish, Slovak, Uzbek, Turkish, Korean, Finnish | Message 11 of 16 23 July 2011 at 8:13am | IP Logged | ||
This site has a decent description of Finnish cases. Here's another online description of Finnish cases. kaupassa means "in a/the shop". The suffix -ssa signals position inside something. "Shopping" per Wiktionary can be expressed by ostos (especially in certain plural forms of ostos) I can't think of a Finnish verb that neatly matches "to shop" but there's a construction that does get the point across inherent in "to shop". käydä ostoksilla - to shop, to go shopping (literally "to go on purchases") A couple of related constructions with "to shop" include: vertailla hintoja - to shop around (literally "to compare [some] prices") etsiä - to shop around for (literally "to look for") 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| cathrynm Senior Member United States junglevision.co Joined 5913 days ago 910 posts - 1232 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese, Finnish | Message 12 of 16 23 July 2011 at 8:28am | IP Logged | ||
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In a shop, I think. "Ostin banaani kaupassa." (Please help, I suck at this language.) These things seem to rougly translate to prepositions, that is until you try saying something, and then it's wrong no matter what.
This is unrelated, but I suggest this link here. http://www2.lingsoft.fi/cgi-bin/fintwol? It's so hard to read Finnish with a dictionary because the words inflect. Actually often it's not the inflections for me the compound words just baffle me. This site can untangle Finnish conjugations and compound words. For example if I enter Kauppatorilla, it breaks down the word as follows. "<kauppatorilla>" "kauppa#tori" N ADE SG "kauppa#tora" N ADE PL This way, you can take the pieces and enter them back into a FInnish English dictionary, like sanakirja.org and slug through Finnish on the internet. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| graceland Diglot Newbie United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4786 days ago 5 posts - 5 votes Speaks: English*, Mandarin Studies: Korean, Finnish | Message 13 of 16 23 July 2011 at 9:30am | IP Logged | ||
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Thanks Chung, those links are very useful and helped clear up my confusion :) It was exactly what I needed.
Also thank you cathrynm, for the link. I plan to use that in the future^^ 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| jdmoncada Tetraglot Senior Member United States Joined 4822 days ago 470 posts - 741 votes Speaks: English*, German, Spanish, Finnish Studies: Russian, Japanese | Message 14 of 16 24 July 2011 at 5:39pm | IP Logged | ||
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Finnish is my best language other than my native English. I love it so very much, and I wish you great success with it.
I personally liked Mastering Finnish published by Hippocrene. It has some great grammar explanations in the back. (I'm a grammar nerd.) I did, however like the audio that went with Teach Yourself Finnish. Also, for listening practice, I love, love, love Selkouutiset (slow spoken news in simplified Finnish complete with transcripts and listening comprehension questions). I wish my other languages had this thing, too. I've asked around and no one seems to know of a resource. Selkouutiset: http://yle.fi/selkouutiset/ 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| cathrynm Senior Member United States junglevision.co Joined 5913 days ago 910 posts - 1232 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese, Finnish | Message 15 of 16 27 July 2011 at 2:14am | IP Logged | ||
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I think you are right about Selkouutiset. That, maybe aside from going to Finland and immersion, this is the only path from Beginner textbook level to intermediate level.
(Sorry for interrupting your log here) I'm not aware of anyone doing news in easy Japanese. But, have you checked out this site? This is classic Japanese literature read out loud in a podcast with transcription. http://jclab.wordpress.com/ 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| graceland Diglot Newbie United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4786 days ago 5 posts - 5 votes Speaks: English*, Mandarin Studies: Korean, Finnish | Message 16 of 16 28 July 2011 at 9:33am | IP Logged | ||
Thanks, for the link :) Edited by graceland on 29 August 2011 at 3:43am 1 person has voted this message useful |
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