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Warp3
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 Message 337 of 479
09 March 2014 at 4:53pm | IP Logged 
한국어 (2014년 3월 2일 - 2014년 3월 8일):

TTMIK: 제1단 제16회-제25회
I went through Level 1 pretty quickly (all 25 lessons in 2 weeks; 15 the first week and 10
the second) because it was virtually all review. I may slow down once I hit higher levels,
but I imagine Level 2 will go by at a similar speed.

New Korean Cards: 3

Scorched Earth Reading:
- CNBLUE - I'm Sorry (3 new cards)
적시다 = to wet, moisten, drench, dampen ("내 두 눈을 적신")
잔인하다(殘忍--) = to be brutal, cruel, merciless, cold-blooded, hardhearted, coldhearted,
ruthless ("잔인한 너의 한 마디")
쓰디쓰다 = to be very bitter, bitter as bitter can be ("쓰디 쓴 너의 한 마디")

Extensive Reading:
- 와라!편의점 (read daily)
- Twitter (a few visits each week)

Active Practice: Posts on CZ's blog and HTLAL

Song Memorization:
The song that I SE read this week, "CNBLUE - I'm Sorry", is a very likely candidate for my
memorization challenge this year. It quickly became my favorite from CNBLUE when it
was released last year (with second place going to 직감, which was formerly my group
favorite), however the main reason I'm considering it for memorization is that I need
more than one male vocal song in my repertoire. Currently the only male vocal song I
have memorized so far is "조용필 - 여행을 떠나요".

GOAL STATUS: Week 11
Grammar 1 (Extract grammar from SRS): DONE (65 cards)
Grammar 2 (Complete Let's Speak Korean 2부): 28/130
Grammar 3 (Complete Talk To Me In Korean): 25/261
Grammar 4 (Complete Survival Korean): Not Started
Grammar 5 (Complete SK: Basic Grammar): Not Started
Grammar 6 (Review Lonely Planet Phrasebook): Not Started
Grammar 7 (Review Using Korean): Not Started
Vocab 1 (SE read 24 songs): 6/24
Vocab 2 (INT read 1 TTMIK 이야기/month): 2/12
Production 1 (Memorize 1 song/month): 2/12
Production 2 (Write 2 posts/week): 11/52
Team Gumiho Challenges: 1/1

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español (2/3/2014 - 8/3/2014):

Pimsleur:
- Lecciónes 91-95

Destinos:
- Episodios 41-44

Bilingual reading:
- Foxtrot en español (read daily)
- Dilbert en español (read daily)
- Calvin and Hobbes en español (read daily)
- XKCD en español (visited daily; read on the rare occasions that it updates)

Extensive Reading:
- Twitter (a few visits each week)

Active Practice: Posts on HTLAL

GOAL STATUS: Week 11
General 1 (Find a "hook"): In Progress
Course 1 (Complete Pimsleur Spanish 1-4): 95/120
Course 2 (Complete Assimil Spanish With Ease): 0/109
Course 3 (Complete Destinos): 44/52
Production 1 (Writing practice): 11/52
Team Lobo Challenges: 2/2


Edited by Warp3 on 09 March 2014 at 4:58pm

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Stelle
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 Message 338 of 479
09 March 2014 at 5:16pm | IP Logged 
You're really doing well! I'm impressed by your dedication!

I noticed that you still haven't found your "hook" in Spanish. I can recommend some TV shows that I really
enjoyed on DramaFever if you're interested in series! They're all from Spain, since that's the Spanish that I'm
learning, and they all have pretty high production value. I really enjoy Drama Fever- they have great shows, for
free, with English subtitles that you can turn on or off. In the perfect world, they'd also have Spanish subtitles,
but you can't have everything!

I don't know if you like historical dramas, but both my husband and I *love* Isabel, about Queen Isabella of Spain:

isabel

The actors are all very good, and the costumes and settings are amazing! We can't wait until season 3.

I also enjoyed Desaparecida (a crime drama) and La Fuga (a futuristic dystopian prison break story), even though I
really didn't like the ending of La Fuga. Still, lots of fun to watch!

Desaparecida
La Fuga

While I haven't watched it yet, next on my list is Aguila Rojo, another historical story set in the 1600s (which
apparently also has ninjas, or something like that). I've heard good things about it, and there are several seasons
available.

Aguila roja
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Warp3
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 Message 339 of 479
09 March 2014 at 6:07pm | IP Logged 
Thanks. I'm definitely making faster progress toward my Spanish goals than I am my
Korean goals this year (which is fine with me since my Korean is much farther along
anyway).

The "find a hook" goal is a bit of a vague goal anyway, so I'm not sure what will actually
trigger me to set that over to "DONE" status. In reality, I probably need a few good hooks
embedded to make sure I stay engaged with the language in the future like has happened
with Korean (where I've gotten hooked multiple times from both the music and TV
angles).

I downloaded season 1 of Isabel a while back when I saw a few logs here talking about it
but haven't started in on it yet. Thanks for the other recommendations; I'll keep those in
mind as well.

Most of my watching in Spanish so far (other than educational items like Destinos) has
been Buffy but I only got through season one so far then kind of stalled there (but I think
that's mostly due to not watching as much TV in any language lately since I've been
slacking on Korean TV as well). I'd probably consider the Buffy/Angel series to be *a*
hook for Spanish, but not really a good enough one as it would be very easy to fail over to
watching that series in English again. I do need to get myself hooked on a series that is
originally in Spanish, so reverting to English is simply not an option (like I've done with
several Korean variety TV series).

I also recently subscribed to 2 years of People en español, so perhaps reading that will
introduce me to some previously unfamiliar music artists, movies, and TV series that will
catch my attention enough to result in some new hooks.
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Kerrie
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 Message 340 of 479
16 March 2014 at 2:31pm | IP Logged 
Stelle wrote:
While I haven't watched it yet, next on my list is Aguila Rojo, another historical story set in the 1600s which apparently also has ninjas, or something like that). I've heard good things about it, and there are several seasons available.

Aguila roja


I really enjoyed Águila Roja. It has lots of plot holes, but I still really enjoyed it. Isabel, too. The other two I haven't seen yet, although they look good. :)

EDIT: Plot holes, not pot holes. :D

Edited by Kerrie on 16 March 2014 at 2:32pm

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Warp3
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 Message 341 of 479
16 March 2014 at 2:35pm | IP Logged 
한국어 (2014년 3월 9일 - 2014년 3월 15일):

TTMIK: 제2단 제1회-제10회

Extensive Reading:
- 와라!편의점 (read daily)
- Twitter (a few visits each week)

GOAL STATUS: Week 12
Grammar 1 (Extract grammar from SRS): DONE (65 cards)
Grammar 2 (Complete Let's Speak Korean 2부): 28/130
Grammar 3 (Complete Talk To Me In Korean): 35/261
Grammar 4 (Complete Survival Korean): Not Started
Grammar 5 (Complete SK: Basic Grammar): Not Started
Grammar 6 (Review Lonely Planet Phrasebook): Not Started
Grammar 7 (Review Using Korean): Not Started
Vocab 1 (SE read 24 songs): 6/24
Vocab 2 (INT read 1 TTMIK 이야기/month): 2/12
Production 1 (Memorize 1 song/month): 2/12
Production 2 (Write 2 posts/week): 11/52
Team Gumiho Challenges: 1/1

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español (9/3/2014 - 15/3/2014):

Pimsleur:
- Lecciónes 96-100

Destinos:
- Episodios 45-48

This coming week will be the final week for Destinos (episodes 49-52). It's not always
been the most interesting story, but is still surprisingly interesting for an educational
series.

Bilingual reading:
- Foxtrot en español (read daily)
- Dilbert en español (read daily)
- Calvin and Hobbes en español (read daily)
- XKCD en español (visited daily; read on the rare occasions that it updates)

Calvin and Hobbes was in Portugese rather than Spanish for a few days this week due to
a site glitch at GoComics.

I purchased a Pro membership on GoComics ($11.88/yr) this week. The main reason I
did this is that it allows you to view the comics on a single page, thus I can put the
English and Spanish versions on the same screen and compare them more easily.
Granted, I could just shuffle browser windows around but this is much simpler and at
under $1/mo it's not exactly expensive. (Unfortunately, the only English Dilbert they
have is Dilbert Classics, so I still have to use dilbert.com for the English version of that
comic.)

Extensive Reading:
- Twitter (a few visits each week)

GOAL STATUS: Week 12
General 1 (Find a "hook"): In Progress
Course 1 (Complete Pimsleur Spanish 1-4): 100/120
Course 2 (Complete Assimil Spanish With Ease): 0/109
Course 3 (Complete Destinos): 48/52
Production 1 (Writing practice): 11/52
Team Lobo Challenges: 2/2

---

This is the first week where I've not made my weekly post-writing goals (in either
language, no less). I like having this goal, so I definitely don't want to drop it, but I need
to start it earlier in the week. There is rarely a valid excuse for me to be unable to post
at least one thing in each language on the Sunday that starts the week (if not both posts
in each language that day).


Edited by Warp3 on 16 March 2014 at 2:37pm

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Warp3
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 Message 342 of 479
22 March 2014 at 1:56pm | IP Logged 
Acabo de terminar de ver el episodio final de 'Destinos'. A veces me pareció que fue un
poco demasiado repetitivo pero en general me gustó.
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 Message 343 of 479
22 March 2014 at 8:18pm | IP Logged 
I just went to organize my Twitter feed into lists and found that Twitter's list management
is horribly inefficient. Fortunately I found a site that does a massively better job:
http://twitlistmanager.com/ The site doesn't seem to display unicode
correctly (so my 한국어 list name showed as boxes rather than text), but it still updated
the lists correctly, so apparently the issue is visual only.

Doing this also made me realize how lopsided my current feed is:
Total followed = 197
한국어 list = 187
español list = 7

Despite this the sheer number of tweets from "MUY Interesante" (thanks to Stelle for
that account recommendation) seems to offset that imbalance surprisingly well when
viewing the feed as a whole.
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Warp3
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 Message 344 of 479
23 March 2014 at 3:16pm | IP Logged 
한국어 (2014년 3월 16일 - 2014년 3월 22일):

TTMIK: 제2단 제11회-제20회 (2 cards)
- V+기도 하다 = to also V, to even V
"저는 영어를 가르치기도 해요." = "I also *teach* English. / I even *teach* English."
(usually stated as an addition to sth else you do with English (speak, learn, etc.))
- V+기만 하다 = to only V
"듣기만 했어요." = "I only listened (and didn't talk)."; "보기만 할 거예요." = "I will only
look (and not touch)."
(NOTE: N+하다 verbs use N도/N만 하다 instead as they are already in noun form and
thus don't need the V+기 gerund conversion. Example: 공부하다 > 공부도 하다 or 공부만
하다.)
I'm surprised I had never come across these two forms before in my studies, but I
honestly can't recall ever learning them. In fact I wonder how many times I've seen V+기
도 하다 when reading and just misread it as "to plan to V" (V+기로 하다) instead.
(Granted it is not difficult to decipher the meaning of both of these since the V+기 gerund
form is very familiar to me, but I had never actually learned them as grammar
constructions.

New Korean Cards: 5

Scorched Earth Reading:
- TTMIK 이야기 제6회 (3 cards)
예시(例示/豫示) = example, illustration, exemplification; indication ("한번 예시를 연기
를 해 볼까요?"); ~하다 = to illustrate (by example), exemplify; to indicate (beforehand),
show signs of, foreshadow
청취자(聽取者) = listener (e.g. to a radio show, podcast, etc.) ("청취자 여러분 알려 주세
요.")
상당히(相當~) = quite, fairly, rather, considerably, decently, heavily ("그리고 그 이야기의
상당히 많은 부분은 이 나라를 바꾸겠다.")
(There were a few more words that were new to me as well, but I skipped adding them to
Anki for varying reasons.)

Extensive Reading:
- 와라!편의점 (read daily)
- Twitter (a few visits each week)

Active Practice: Posts on HTLAL and Twitter

Song Memorization:
- Rainbow - Tell Me Tell Me

Team 구미호 "120개" challenge: 24/121
- Korean Drama Phrases (12/12)
- How Not To Say It In Korean (7/7)
- Korean Slang Words (Ask Hyojin) (2/2)
- Korean Vocab Power Up (3/3)

As noted in the team thread, my "120개" challenge is to watch 121 TTMIK instructional
videos on YouTube. When I picked the various playlists, 121 was the total of the
playlists I finally picked and I felt that number was close enough rather than continuing
to shuffle until I hit exactly 120. As a longer term goal, I'd really like to watch *all* of
their existing videos then I can just continue to watch new ones here and there as they
are released.

GOAL STATUS: Week 13
Grammar 1 (Extract grammar from SRS): DONE (65 cards)
Grammar 2 (Complete Let's Speak Korean 2부): 28/130
Grammar 3 (Complete Talk To Me In Korean): 45/261
Grammar 4 (Complete Survival Korean): Not Started
Grammar 5 (Complete SK: Basic Grammar): Not Started
Grammar 6 (Review Lonely Planet Phrasebook): Not Started
Grammar 7 (Review Using Korean): Not Started
Vocab 1 (SE read 24 songs): 6/24
Vocab 2 (INT read 1 TTMIK 이야기/month): 2/12
Production 1 (Memorize 1 song/month): 3/12
Production 2 (Write 2 posts/week): 12/52
Team Gumiho Challenges: 1/2

---

español (16/3/2014 - 22/3/2014):

Pimsleur:
- Lecciónes 101-105

Destinos:
- Episodios 49-52

Bilingual reading:
- Foxtrot en español (read daily)
- Dilbert en español (read daily)
- Calvin and Hobbes en español (read daily)
- XKCD en español (visited daily; read on the rare occasions that it updates)

Extensive Reading:
- Twitter (a few visits each week)

Active Practice: Posts on HTLAL and Twitter

GOAL STATUS: Week 13
General 1 (Find a "hook"): In Progress
Course 1 (Complete Pimsleur Spanish 1-4): 105/120
Course 2 (Complete Assimil Spanish With Ease): 0/109
Course 3 (Complete Destinos): 52/52
Production 1 (Write 2 posts/week): 12/52
Team Lobo Challenges: 2/2



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