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| Volte Tetraglot Senior Member Switzerland Joined 6237 days ago 4474 posts - 6726 votes  Speaks: English*, Esperanto, German, Italian Studies: French, Finnish, Mandarin, Japanese | Message 9 of 30 23 August 2011 at 10:19am | IP Logged | ||||||||
I second this. They're definitely fun books to leaf through. Edited by Volte on 23 August 2011 at 10:20am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Luk Triglot Groupie Argentina Joined 5133 days ago 91 posts - 127 votes Speaks: Spanish*, English, French Studies: Italian, German, Mandarin, Greek | Message 10 of 30 23 August 2011 at 6:37pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
That's my problem right there. Is it meant to teach you about the characters etymology only? or to teach you how to remember them as Heisig? 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
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You'll see from the pages I scanned that he gives some stories for some characters and none for others. I think that you would have to be familiar with the Heisig method before tackling this text. In my case, I am working through the Matthews and Mathews text first to learn how to use mnemonics and to create stories and then I will move to these texts (hopefully).
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| newyorkeric Diglot Moderator Singapore Joined 6177 days ago 1598 posts - 2174 votes Speaks: English*, Italian Studies: Mandarin, Malay Personal Language Map | Message 12 of 30 24 August 2011 at 6:58am | IP Logged | ||||||||
This is the first actual chapter. It's only 4 pages. Later on the chapters become much longer. Before this chapter there are a lot of instructions and a list of bushous (they're like radicals) that he says you must memorize. A number appears next to each character the first time it is introduced. The reason that this chapters starts at 144 is because there are 143 bushous that can stand alone as characters that are introduced in an earlier chapter.
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| newyorkeric Diglot Moderator Singapore Joined 6177 days ago 1598 posts - 2174 votes Speaks: English*, Italian Studies: Mandarin, Malay Personal Language Map | Message 14 of 30 24 August 2011 at 3:35pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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You're welcome, paranday.
There are 3,650 characters that Ann calls frequently used characters and another 1,000 or so that he calls infrequently used. These numbers are based on a survey in which he collected characters from 4 Hong Kong newspapers for 45 days. Here is the breakdown of the frequently used characters, in order of most common to least common, with the percentage coverage for the 1,411,088 characters surveyed: First Coverage 500 74.7% 1,000 88.8% 1,500 94.6% 2,000 97.4% 2,500 98.8% 3,000 99.5% 3,650 99.8% Here is my main complaint about the book. Learning characters 1 through 3,650 is not the best way if you want to start reading relatively soon because he doesn't order the characters by frequency. So I would probably choose to learn 2,000 in one go. But as far as I can tell there is no direct and easy way to figure out what those 2,000 characters are in the text. Edited by newyorkeric on 24 August 2011 at 3:36pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Luk Triglot Groupie Argentina Joined 5133 days ago 91 posts - 127 votes Speaks: Spanish*, English, French Studies: Italian, German, Mandarin, Greek | Message 15 of 30 25 August 2011 at 4:23am | IP Logged | ||||||||
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newyorkeric, you're the man! thanks a lot!
one question: it deals with traditional characters or with simplified? 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| newyorkeric Diglot Moderator Singapore Joined 6177 days ago 1598 posts - 2174 votes Speaks: English*, Italian Studies: Mandarin, Malay Personal Language Map | Message 16 of 30 25 August 2011 at 11:06am | IP Logged | ||||||||
You're welcome... The focus is traditional characters, but he includes the simplified versions as well. Edited by newyorkeric on 25 August 2011 at 4:24pm 1 person has voted this message useful |
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