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| Doitsujin Diglot Senior Member Germany Joined 5100 days ago 1256 posts - 2363 votes  Speaks: German*, English | Message 1 of 14 10 September 2011 at 10:25am | IP Logged | |||||
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I'm toying with idea of writing a very simple vocabulary learning tool that'll color-code each letter of a word to somewhat mimic Grapheme–color synesthesia; I'd like to find out whether it'll help me to better visualize and memorize the words that I want to learn.
I'm obviously not a synesthete, but, IIRC, some HTLAL members are. I've got a couple of questions for the synesthetes among you: 1. Do you see similar sounds in different shades of the same color? For example, do you see a P and B or an S and Z as a light and dark orange letters? 2. Do you associate warm and cold colors with a certain group of letters? For example, do you see all consonants as cold colors and all vowels/diphthongs as warm letters or vice versa? 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| ReneeMona Diglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 5115 days ago 864 posts - 1274 votes Speaks: Dutch*, EnglishC2 Studies: French | Message 2 of 14 10 September 2011 at 7:44pm | IP Logged | |||||
Yes. Voiced-voiceless combinations are usually different shades of the same color, with f-v being green, t-d being blue, p-b being brown and s-z being yellow.
No, both groups have both warm and cool colors. For instance, n is blue while m is yellow and a is orange while u is grey. I hope that was helpful. Good luck with your experiment! I've heard of people trying to recreate synesthetic associations before and I'm interested to hear if it'll work for you. 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Levi Pentaglot Senior Member United States Joined 5347 days ago 2268 posts - 3328 votes Speaks: English*, French, Esperanto, German, Spanish Studies: Russian, Dutch, Portuguese, Mandarin, Japanese, Italian | Message 3 of 14 10 September 2011 at 8:23pm | IP Logged | |||||
No and yes, though I believe this is due to the origin of my synesthetic associations. While the colors I associate with numbers and punctuation marks seem to be random, my letter-color associations were clearly influenced by a magnetic alphabet set I had as a child. For me: A = red B = orange C = yellow D = green E = black F = green G = red H = orange I = yellow J = green K = green L = purple M = red N = orange O = yellow P = green Q = green R = purple S = blue T = orange U = yellow V = green W = gray X = purple Y = red Z = purple The original magnet set simply repeated the colors red-orange-yellow-green-blue-purple, though for whatever reason some of the color associations have changed for me. Anyhow, the pattern is still clearly there, so my associations don't really have anything to do with the letters' pronunciations. P and B are completely unrelated, and five of the six vowels are "warm" colors but only by coincidence. Edited by Levi on 10 September 2011 at 8:25pm 3 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Doitsujin Diglot Senior Member Germany Joined 5100 days ago 1256 posts - 2363 votes Speaks: German*, English | Message 4 of 14 10 September 2011 at 10:46pm | IP Logged | |||||
Thanks for your post. Do you happen to remember how those attempts turned out?
Very interesting. What happens if you hear sounds that don't correspond to a single letter in the English alphabet (e.g. German "ch" /x/ or Russian "ж" /ʐ/)? Do you associate them with two colors or no color at all? 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Levi Pentaglot Senior Member United States Joined 5347 days ago 2268 posts - 3328 votes Speaks: English*, French, Esperanto, German, Spanish Studies: Russian, Dutch, Portuguese, Mandarin, Japanese, Italian | Message 5 of 14 11 September 2011 at 11:31am | IP Logged | |||||
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I don't associate sounds with colors. I associate letters with colors. The Cyrillic alphabet is interesting. Some of the Cyrillic letters are the same color as their Latin equivalents (e.g. Cyrillic "Р" is purple like a Latin "R", not green like a Latin "P") but some are the same color as the Latin letter with the same shape (e.g. Cyrillic "У" is red like a Latin "Y", not yellow like a Latin "U", which "Ю" is; and the letters "Б", "В", and "Ь" all take their orange color from the Latin letter "B"). The letters which don't have any clear Latin equivalents don't really have vivid color associations for me, except I suppose I would call "Ш" and "Щ" blue, and "Я" is most definitely red. Edited by Levi on 11 September 2011 at 11:36am 3 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Bao Diglot Senior Member Germany tinyurl.com/pe4kqe5 Joined 5546 days ago 2256 posts - 4046 votes Speaks: German*, English Studies: French, Spanish, Japanese, Mandarin | Message 6 of 14 11 September 2011 at 6:05pm | IP Logged | |||||
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I tried to explain how it works for me and suddenly realized that I don't have grapheme-colour, but ... phoneme-colour synaesthesia. I don't really see the colour when reading or hearing words, but I know it as an innate quality. Natural colours override synaesthethic colours - akai sounds red (well, bright, sooty orange), but aoi would also sound red if it didn't mean blue/green. Words that are written in a wrong colour are more difficult to read. The edition of Die Unendliche Geschichte printed in red and green was one of the books I found the most exhausting to read. Only black and grey (and colors close to them) work as neutral background colour. I suspect that if you made colour coding work for you, there is a chance you might also start having trouble with pre-coloured material and using highlighters.
For example, M is dark green for me. German and English B is light royal blue, Spanish b/v has a light reddish orange that turns more matte, like ochre or loess, when pronounced as approximant. Aspirated P is dark, reddish purple (plum), unaspirated has a lighter shade of purple. Korean M is dark mint green when pronounced slowly, and changes to matte dark pink when pronounced quickly, Japanese B is dark pink. Aspiration makes the colour stronger and colder, tense and double consonants have higher saturation. Diphtongs and consonant clusters are represented by colour gradients, so are syllables and entire words. These associations form while I'm learning a language's phonology, but they only become helpful when I already have internalized it. At that time, it works like a secondary filing system that helps me to access words more quickly. Edited by Bao on 11 September 2011 at 6:07pm 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Aquila Triglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 5261 days ago 104 posts - 128 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, German Studies: French | Message 7 of 14 24 September 2011 at 1:59pm | IP Logged | |||||
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I am not a synesthete but I try to associate words with colors to remember the gender. Masculine words are blue,
feminine words are pink and neuter words are green. The words have these colors in Anki for example. The word for key in French is "la clé" (feminine). To memorize this word, I visualize a big key made from pink clay. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| WillyJames Newbie Canada Joined 4881 days ago 15 posts - 16 votes Speaks: French* Studies: English, Spanish, Russian | Message 8 of 14 27 November 2011 at 2:36am | IP Logged | |||||
They are for my part also an innate quality that I can only perceive in my mind. When I read, I dont see the letters in the colour I associate it. On the other hand, when I hear a word, I see its color in my mind; the words appear written in their color. When I think of letters individually my brain associates them with colours, but the weird thing is, when I think of a complete word I see that word entirely in a colour. Words also have a determined position around me or in my mind. (I know that can seem weird) My mind has different places where words can position themselves. Unlike Levi I dont associate Cyrillic letters with their Latin equivalents in terms of colour. And there's also some colour that I just can't name. Like if the color could not really exist in real life. For those special colors I can give an approximate corresponding real life color, but it is never accurate enough.
That is exactly the way it goes for me too! 1 person has voted this message useful |
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