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Sunja Diglot Senior Member Germany Joined 5897 days ago 2020 posts - 2295 votes 1 sounds Speaks: English*, German Studies: French, Mandarin
| Message 49 of 53 10 November 2011 at 1:26pm | IP Logged |
cathrynm wrote:
I assume is the result of failed plastic surgery meant to make themselves more camera friendly. |
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(lol) When I was visiting South Dakota in October 2010 I kept hearing people talk through their noses and because everyone is so talkative and friendly I started doing it too. For two weeks I sounded like Francis McDormand in "Fargo". I came back to Europe and it was gone.
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| kirocb23 Newbie United States Joined 4576 days ago 3 posts - 3 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Russian, Polish, Serbo-Croatian, Serbian, German
| Message 50 of 53 10 November 2011 at 11:02pm | IP Logged |
Yes, this has happened to me. My voice gets deeper when I speak in German, for
Spanish... I can't really describe it for Spanish. And for the others, I have no idea
because I haven't had much of a chance to speak the others.
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| BartoG Diglot Senior Member United States confession Joined 5259 days ago 292 posts - 818 votes Speaks: English*, French Studies: Italian, Spanish, Latin, Uzbek
| Message 52 of 53 20 November 2011 at 7:54pm | IP Logged |
The phrase we're looking for here is "point of resonance." It's the spot in the oral cavity that you direct the airflow to from the vocal cords when you're speaking. With British RP, the point of resonance is closer to the front of the mouth. This changes the way the airflow goes through the mouth ever so slightly, resulting in a seemingly higher pitch and, incidentally, changing the way the mouth lines up to make a final r, which is why the final r pretty much disappears. For a language like French to have those nasal vowels, obviously, you're going to have to use your speech organs differently to pronounce it smoothly than you would, say, Russian.
A few people have intuited what's going on in posts above, and several have hit on the link between acting and foreign languages. For a preliminary explanation, here's a link to the importance of point of resonance for audiobook acting, specifically for doing a British RP accent vs. a Standard American accent:
http://books.google.com/books?id=_o3fI-b5WGAC&pg=PA36&lpg=PA 36&dq=%22point+of+resonance%22voice&source=bl&ots=eXRP_OiIzh &sig=4RUs3amzZvlASzSl2uCPQxmiRZo&hl=en&ei=_EjJTrTxDuSYiALS9v TpDw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&sqi=2&ved=0CCAQ6 AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=%22point%20of%20resonance%22voice&f=false
Check out a book like Accents: A Manual for Actors if you're really interested. In learning how a British or American actor can sound more like a Frenchman or Italian, you'll find out some key features of different languages that might make your pronunciation of the actual language more authentic.
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| mrwarper Diglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member Spain forum_posts.asp?TID=Registered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5038 days ago 1493 posts - 2500 votes Speaks: Spanish*, EnglishC2 Studies: German, Russian, Japanese
| Message 53 of 53 21 November 2011 at 6:41am | IP Logged |
Clickable version of the above:
Google Books search for "point of resonance" + voice = Acting with the voice: the art of recording books, by Robert Blumenfeld
BartoG wrote:
... you'll find out some key features of different languages that might make your pronunciation of the actual language more authentic. |
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Operative word: might. I distinctly remember watching The Princess Bride with some friends and one of them commented on the Spanish accent of one of the characters in the original (we were watching it dubbed). When we watched it again in English, I could tell his accent was clearly incomplete so for Spanish speakers it was obviously 'fake'. So beware of this and try to get your acting together :)
Edit: add IMDB link.
Edited by mrwarper on 21 November 2011 at 6:55am
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