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tractor Tetraglot Senior Member Norway Joined 5464 days ago 1349 posts - 2292 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, English, Spanish, Catalan Studies: French, German, Latin
| Message 25 of 48 30 October 2011 at 8:26pm | IP Logged |
Ari wrote:
Yeah, I was just about to mention that. I think the word "orange" in Swedish has to a certain extent
replaced the older "brandgul", but the latter is still very much correct. And, as has been pointed out, the fruit is
called "apelsin". So there you go. Three words. Swedish wins! |
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For the colour we have at least four words in Norwegian: oransje, branngul (fire yellow), rødgul (red yellow) and
appelsinfarga (orange coloured). Norwegian wins!
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jeff_lindqvist Diglot Moderator SwedenRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6920 days ago 4250 posts - 5711 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: German, Spanish, Russian, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Irish, French Personal Language Map
| Message 26 of 48 30 October 2011 at 11:44pm | IP Logged |
These names are in use in Swedish too:
brandgul - 89 300 hits (107 000 hits globally)
rödgul - 187 000 hits (204 000 hits globally)
apelsinfärgad - 242 000 hits (961 000 hits globally), you'll find all sorts of nuances if you add -färgad to an object or base colour (mandarinfärgad, lorangafärgad...)
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| TixhiiDon Tetraglot Senior Member Japan Joined 5475 days ago 772 posts - 1474 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese, German, Russian Studies: Georgian
| Message 27 of 48 30 October 2011 at 11:45pm | IP Logged |
Ketutar wrote:
In Albanian both the fruit and color is "portokalli" |
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In Georgian too the word for the fruit is ფორთოხალი (portoxhali). I've no idea where
the roots of this word lie.
The word for the colour in Georgian is ნარანჯისფერი (naranjisperi). "Peri" means
colour, and the root "naranj" (-is indicates the genitive) is, according to a quick
Google search, a borrowing from Persian that has also been adopted by Spanish.
Georgian borrows many words from Persian, so no surprise there, but the respective links
with Albanian and Spanish are very interesting.
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| PaulLambeth Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5384 days ago 244 posts - 315 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Icelandic, Hindi, Irish
| Message 28 of 48 30 October 2011 at 11:58pm | IP Logged |
jeff_lindqvist wrote:
These names are in use in Swedish too:
brandgul - 89 300 hits (107 000 hits globally)
rödgul - 187 000 hits (204 000 hits globally)
apelsinfärgad - 242 000 hits (961 000 hits globally), you'll find all sorts of nuances if you add -färgad to an object or base colour (mandarinfärgad, lorangafärgad...) |
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Just as you'd find all sorts of nuances if you attached '-y' to any colour and hyphenated it with the next:
orangey-red - 404.000 hits
orangey-pink - 137.000 hits
orangey-pinky-blue - 6 hits (someone, please, show me that colour in an image)
:-)
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| strikingstar Bilingual Tetraglot Senior Member United States Joined 5184 days ago 292 posts - 444 votes Speaks: English*, Mandarin*, Cantonese, Swahili Studies: Spanish, Arabic (Written)
| Message 29 of 48 31 October 2011 at 5:33am | IP Logged |
TixhiiDon wrote:
Ketutar wrote:
In Albanian both the fruit and color is "portokalli"
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In Georgian too the word for the fruit is ფორთოხალი (portoxhali). I've no idea where
the roots of this word lie.
The word for the colour in Georgian is ნარანჯისფერი (naranjisperi). "Peri" means
colour, and the root "naranj" (-is indicates the genitive) is, according to a quick
Google search, a borrowing from Persian that has also been adopted by Spanish.
Georgian borrows many words from Persian, so no surprise there, but the respective
links with Albanian and Spanish are very interesting. |
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All adaptations of the naraj- line can be traced back to Sanskrit. Of course Sanskrit
may have borrowed it from another even older language.
"Portokalli" = Portugal. It refers to Portugal's status as the main importer of oranges
from East to West around the 16th century. This seems to suggest that oranges made
their way from China/India to Portugal before spreading East again towards the
Caucusus. Portugal likely accomplished this with their maritime prowess as well as the
discovery of a sea route between East and West via the Cape of Good Hope. Would also
seem to suggest that few (or no) oranges were actively traded along the Silk Road.
Edited by strikingstar on 31 October 2011 at 5:38am
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| TixhiiDon Tetraglot Senior Member Japan Joined 5475 days ago 772 posts - 1474 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese, German, Russian Studies: Georgian
| Message 30 of 48 31 October 2011 at 7:08am | IP Logged |
strikingstar wrote:
TixhiiDon wrote:
Ketutar wrote:
In Albanian both the fruit and
color is "portokalli"
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In Georgian too the word for the fruit is ფორთოხალი (portoxhali). I've no idea
where
the roots of this word lie.
The word for the colour in Georgian is ნარანჯისფერი (naranjisperi). "Peri" means
colour, and the root "naranj" (-is indicates the genitive) is, according to a quick
Google search, a borrowing from Persian that has also been adopted by Spanish.
Georgian borrows many words from Persian, so no surprise there, but the respective
links with Albanian and Spanish are very interesting. |
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All adaptations of the naraj- line can be traced back to Sanskrit. Of course Sanskrit
may have borrowed it from another even older language.
"Portokalli" = Portugal. It refers to Portugal's status as the main importer of oranges
from East to West around the 16th century. This seems to suggest that oranges made
their way from China/India to Portugal before spreading East again towards the
Caucusus. Portugal likely accomplished this with their maritime prowess as well as the
discovery of a sea route between East and West via the Cape of Good Hope. Would also
seem to suggest that few (or no) oranges were actively traded along the Silk Road.
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Fascinating! Thanks for the information.
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Iversen Super Polyglot Moderator Denmark berejst.dk Joined 6714 days ago 9078 posts - 16473 votes Speaks: Danish*, French, English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, Romanian, Catalan Studies: Afrikaans, Greek, Norwegian, Russian, Serbian, Icelandic, Latin, Irish, Lowland Scots, Indonesian, Polish, Croatian Personal Language Map
| Message 31 of 48 31 October 2011 at 7:33am | IP Logged |
strikingstar wrote:
In the case of the orange, I've always found it curious that the color and the fruit share the same name. This occurs without any exceptions across all the languages that I know. |
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Danish "appelsin" (probably from Low German, and ultimately derived from the word for 'apple') doesn't look quite like the word for the colour, "orange".
Right now I'm trying to remember another word for beige than "beige" in any language.
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Fasulye Heptaglot Winner TAC 2012 Moderator Germany fasulyespolyglotblog Joined 5858 days ago 5460 posts - 6006 votes 1 sounds Speaks: German*, DutchC1, EnglishB2, French, Italian, Spanish, Esperanto Studies: Latin, Danish, Norwegian, Turkish Personal Language Map
| Message 32 of 48 31 October 2011 at 8:15am | IP Logged |
Translation of the fruit "orange" and the colour "orange":
1. German: die Apfelsine - orange
2. Dutch: de sinaasappel - oranje
3. French: l'orange - orange
4. Italian: l'arancia - arancione
5. Spanish: la naranja - naranja
6. Esperanto: la orangxo - orangxkolora
7. Turkish: portakal - portakalrengi
8. Danish: appelsin - orange, orangefarvet
9. Portuguese: la laranja (EDIT)- cor-de-laranja
10. Swedish: appelsin - orange, orangefärgad
Fasulye
Edited by Fasulye on 01 November 2011 at 8:06am
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