FuroraCeltica Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6677 days ago 1187 posts - 1427 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, French
| Message 1 of 17 20 November 2011 at 9:35pm | IP Logged |
I just found the following link
http://www.france-langue.fr/en/exam_preparation/DELF1_DELF2_ DALF_DFA1_DFA2_CFJ_CFTH_FranceLangue.php
It says that you need to study for x00 hours to get to certain levels. I am just curious how many people here agree with that website?
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fiziwig Senior Member United States Joined 4677 days ago 297 posts - 618 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish
| Message 2 of 17 20 November 2011 at 10:55pm | IP Logged |
The web site specifies "Course Hours". I would think there is a big difference between "course hours" and hours studied.
If I spend 2 hours in class I'm still going to have to spend another 3 or 4 or 5 hours outside of class studying and preparing lessons, so "course hours" just scratches the surface.
In addition different people have different aptitudes for language. I'm taking a Spanish conversation class right now where a few people in the class, after 9 weeks are still not even close on their pronunciation, getting the vowels completely wrong and pronouncing "ll" like "l", and 'h' like English 'h', and they still don't have a clue how to conjugate the simplest regular verbs in the present tense.
I seriously doubt whether there is such a thing as an "hours studied" that fits everyone.
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FuroraCeltica Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6677 days ago 1187 posts - 1427 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, French
| Message 3 of 17 21 November 2011 at 12:27am | IP Logged |
I've always been interested in the time it takes to learn languages.
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Cavesa Triglot Senior Member Czech Republic Joined 4821 days ago 3277 posts - 6779 votes Speaks: Czech*, FrenchC2, EnglishC1 Studies: Spanish, German, Italian
| Message 4 of 17 21 November 2011 at 2:03am | IP Logged |
I don't agree as well. Firstly those are course hours without the self-study. Secondly course hours are not the same for everyone, especially if you are changing a teacher/school/style of classes a few times. If you had one good teacher from your first hour to the last one and it would be one course taking on where you left last time without huge overlaps or gaps, than it would be possible to tell a number of such hours needed.
I kind of liked the 1000 self-study hours number which was mentioned somewhere on the forums. It is a nice number and it is quite a high number so it might work.
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Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5193 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian
| Message 5 of 17 21 November 2011 at 2:48am | IP Logged |
Are you really going to add up every hour, half-hour and quarter-hour you spend studying just to know how
far along you are?
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iguanamon Pentaglot Senior Member Virgin Islands Speaks: Ladino Joined 5074 days ago 2237 posts - 6731 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Portuguese, Haitian Creole, Creole (French)
| Message 6 of 17 21 November 2011 at 2:52am | IP Logged |
It takes what it takes. We're all different. One size does not fit all. How do you quantify desire?
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Abdalan Triglot Senior Member Brazil abdalan.wordpress.co Joined 4858 days ago 120 posts - 194 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, French, English Studies: German
| Message 7 of 17 21 November 2011 at 3:13am | IP Logged |
One thing is right: it's to be counted in hours, not in years.
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Tamise Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom jllrr.wordpress.com/ Joined 5055 days ago 115 posts - 161 votes Speaks: English*, German, Dutch Studies: French, Japanese, Spanish
| Message 8 of 17 21 November 2011 at 7:47am | IP Logged |
Arekkusu wrote:
Are you really going to add up every hour, half-hour and quarter-hour you spend studying just to know how
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Actually, I do, and have for about a year. I didn't start doing it because of languages though, but rather to make sure I do enough studying for my Open University courses - it's hard to kid yourself when you've got it down in black and white that you really only did 2 hours that week instead of 8.
My stats for language are not so clear as for periods of that year all languages went into one pot, and at some points various languages were disambiguated, but it is interesting. For example, I've been studying Dutch all year, and Chinese seriously since the start of the 6WC - my Chinese total will overtake my Dutch total this week. One thing I don't record is watching tv or reading for pleasure, otherwise my Dutch totals would be much higher as I love Dutch detective shows!
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