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AlephBey
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Speaks: English, Hindi*, Urdu, Japanese
Studies: German, Spanish

 
 Message 9 of 14
31 December 2011 at 6:33am | IP Logged 
Mark, you're nothing short of an Angel! That's just what I needed- I was particularly
curious on how the 'wet' consonants are handled in the few words that I'm familiar with;
and also how exactly unstressed syllables are pronounced in Russian, clear like in
German, or somewhat reduced like in English.
Thanks a ton! :-)
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AlephBey
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Speaks: English, Hindi*, Urdu, Japanese
Studies: German, Spanish

 
 Message 10 of 14
31 December 2011 at 7:21am | IP Logged 
Thanks for the comments, everyone! I apologize for replying so late. I somehow didn't
want to write in this log until I actually hit a tangible milestone- I still haven't.
Three lessons short of finishing TY German, 20 lessons into 'Spanish with Ease', and
four lessons into 'The New Penguin Russian Course'.

lynxrunner wrote:
Hey there, fellow TAC Russian person! I see you're going with a
different group than I
am, but that's all good. :D I wish you the best of luck on your Russian studies, and
maybe I'll be able to help you with my meager knowledge of Russian (not that it'll be
necessary with all the Russian speakers on this forum!)

I see that you're doing Spanish, and Latin American Spanish at that! I will be glad to
help you if you should require any help.

And finally, I see you speak Hindi... I was once studying Hindi, but the lack of native
language materials was really discouraging. Do you think perhaps, if I restart my study
of Hindi, that we could perhaps communicate in Hindi? o:

I can recognize with that, I once had a strong urge to learn Persian, but the abject
lack of good resources meant that I had to shelve my plans- at least until I know
enough German to be able to handle 'Persisch ohne Mühe'. :-)
I'd love to converse with you in Hindi; in exchange, you can bear with my pathetic
Spanish! \m/

Tecktight wrote:
When I'm in a pinch, I use Google Translate for audio. I've used it
for Russian on many an occasion, and while the voice is odd and mechanical, the
pronunciation it gives you is decent.

That's a great idea. It's just once out of sheer boredom, I tried playing around with
the text-to-speech feature for Hindi- I found that the voice sounds starkly non-native,
with several phonemes mixed up and an almost comical-sounding abnormal accent. I've
been somewhat vary of using Google Translate for pronunciation ever since.
Native speakers have told me that the German pronunciation sounds perfectly natural,
but for all other languages I'd much rather consult a native speaker before falling
back upon GT as a resource for getting used to the sound of a language.

Just a Dreamer wrote:
Hi!
Do you know about Hugo Russian In Three Months?
It's very similar to New Penguin Russian Course, but with additional audio :)
I wish you the best of luck at your studies.

Thanks! 'Hugo Russian In Three Months' appears quite enticing. Unfortunately,
though, none of the myriad Indian net stores I checked seem to have it in stock. I'm
thinking of using 'Oxford Take off in Russian' once I'm done with the coursebook
I'm currently studying. Hopefully, I'd be lower-intermediate by then. :-)

Edit: Weird sentence repaired

Edited by AlephBey on 31 December 2011 at 11:42am

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Марк
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 Message 11 of 14
31 December 2011 at 2:06pm | IP Logged 
AlephBey wrote:
Mark, you're nothing short of an Angel! That's just what I needed- I
was particularly
curious on how the 'wet' consonants are handled in the few words that I'm familiar with;
and also how exactly unstressed syllables are pronounced in Russian, clear like in
German, or somewhat reduced like in English.
Thanks a ton! :-)

You mean soft consonants, don't you?
Unstressed vowels are reduced, but not very simply.
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Марк
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 Message 12 of 14
31 December 2011 at 2:07pm | IP Logged 
" Unfortunately,
though, none of the myriad Indian net stores I checked seem to have it in stock"
Did you want to buy it?
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AlephBey
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Speaks: English, Hindi*, Urdu, Japanese
Studies: German, Spanish

 
 Message 13 of 14
30 January 2012 at 10:51am | IP Logged 
Dead and gone: My limited French

The first time I had any experience with foreign languages was when I was 12.
Encouraged by my father to learn French, I downloaded a little flash card program and
had him buy me a dainty little guidebook for tourists (I couldn't have known any
better) 'Fifteen Minute French'.
I was quite excited when I started learning. I'd sit in front of my screen, imitating
the narrator's voice as he dictated lists of related French nouns, 'le renard, la
grenouille, l'ours, le chat'
. I would write little sentences in French behind my
notebooks when I'd be bored at school. Sentences as nondescript as 'Ma mère est
belle. Ma professeur est mauvaise. Mon ami est un idiot.'
('My mother is pretty. My
teacher is bad(!) My friend is an idiot.')
At times I'd even shout away insults in French to classmates I was pissed with (tu
es vraiment un chien!
). Never mind they couldn't understand. Know foreign language,
will flaunt it.
Being the fickle-minded young preteen that I was, my interest died off by the time I
was 14. My French having stagnated at a roughly intermediate level.

After months of being in love with the Spanish language, even going as far as buying a
dictionary of slang and idiomatic expressions ('Red Hot Spanish', in case you may want
to look it up), I realize my dormant knowledge of French has disappeared for want of
use. I can't speak even basic French if I want to, Spanish always creeps in. At
times it'd just be grammatical particles, 'y' instead of 'et' or
'los' instead of 'les'. At times I'd replace the most commonplace of
words with a cognate from Spanish. At times I'd begin a sentence in French only to end
it in Spanish.

The bottom line, though, is that I've lost my French. And I don't think I'll be trying
to salvage it until I attain fluency in Spanish.

Edited by AlephBey on 30 January 2012 at 10:54am

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ericblair
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Speaks: English*
Studies: French

 
 Message 14 of 14
10 October 2012 at 7:21am | IP Logged 
Марк wrote:
" Unfortunately,
though, none of the myriad Indian net stores I checked seem to have it in stock"
Did you want to buy it?

Hey, I cannot send a PM. The website seems to not want to recognize your username and
keeps jumbling the Cyrillic when I try to send. However, are you still interested in
recording this book? If so, please PM me with your email address and I can send you the
course. Thanks!


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