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| Luai_lashire Diglot Senior Member United States luai-lashire.deviant Joined 5646 days ago 384 posts - 560 votes  Speaks: English*, Esperanto Studies: Japanese, French | Message 9 of 35 14 January 2012 at 3:32pm | IP Logged | |||||
Oh yeah, definitely. I've always found that having more veggies gives me a lot more energy, among other things. I also have had trouble eating enough food in between classes, so I end up distracted by my growling tummy and unable to focus on learning. So fixing that is a big priority for me! 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Luai_lashire Diglot Senior Member United States luai-lashire.deviant Joined 5646 days ago 384 posts - 560 votes Speaks: English*, Esperanto Studies: Japanese, French | Message 10 of 35 04 February 2012 at 12:35am | IP Logged | |||||
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Update time!
Japanese Anki vocab deck: 718 Anki sentence deck: 152 We've just started chapter 7 of Tobira. I got a 91% overall on the last chapter, so I feel confident I can get my A, because I know I didn't put much effort into the last one (I was sick a lot). I'm aiming for a 95% overall on this one. I both like and dislike Tobira. It's frustrating. There's a huge amount of information but very little to help and guide you to learn it thoroughly. I feel like I am covering a lot but not really internalizing it. Only the easiest and most useful bits go into my long-term active knowledge. The organization of the class doesn't help much with this- the lessons are great but there is too much to cover and too little time to spend making sure you've had enough practice or giving you a chance to review older concepts. Once we've finished a chapter, many things we learned during it are dropped and we barely even use them in conversation. I've taken to trying hard to use some of the older grammar during current classes, but it's hard to do without prompting or without being given appropriate contexts to do so. Due to this problem, I've been thinking a lot about ways to complement my use of the textbook. Anki is helping a lot, but I need more than that. In particular, I want grammar drills. Detailed ones that cover subtle differences between similar expressions, but ones that are fairly simple to do- not like the ones we get for class, which often consist of "make your own sentence" exercises. I want replacement drills and the like. I don't know where to find ones at my level, though. :( I'm also making a list of my weaknesses, and plan to intensely study and drill them during the summer break. These include the subtleties of correct particle use, the grammar word "よう", passive, causative, and passive- causative verbs, and practicing transitive/intransitive pairs. These are all things I can use, but not well, and I'm often stumped by when and why they should be used. My class has already moved on so I need to study them on my own. I also am hoping to make another big kanji push this summer, but it depends on whether or not I try to pick up French and/or German again because I certainly won't have time for a kanji-fest AND two other languages. Health Goals I am making good progress here. I was, sadly, sick as a dog for the past two weeks or so- with two different, consecutive illnesses, a nasty stomache bug and a head cold. I'm almost entirely better now though. During this time, I miraculously managed to stay on top of my homework load, although I couldn't manage any "extras" and therefore fell behind a bit in Japanese since I rely on my extra studying so much. However, my diet got pretty bad and I stopped exercising for a while. I'm now back on track with both of those, which is a relief because often it's hard to get going after an interruption. I don't seem to have lost much of what I had gained, either. So far, I can't tell if the medication is working but I have noticed I seem to have an increased capacity to get things done, even if I feel just as crummy and stressed. I have been doing more in a day than before- I even baked muffins which I took to school all week long! And I've been brushing my teeth twice a day! I suspect this could be due to the medicine, but I'm waiting to see if it goes away- I've had effects like this at random before, but they don't last more than a month if they're random. If it lasts, it's the meds. That would be very good indeed. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Brun Ugle Diglot Senior Member Norway brunugle.wordpress.c Joined 6438 days ago 1292 posts - 1766 votes Speaks: English*, NorwegianC1 Studies: Japanese, Esperanto, Spanish, Finnish | Message 11 of 35 04 February 2012 at 9:13am | IP Logged | |||||
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AN INTRODUCTION TO ADVANCED SPOKEN JAPANESE (Kino)
D. Brown, et al Compiled in l987 at the Inter-University is a pretty good book for drills. Some of the drills seem pretty easy like positive/negative forms of verbs. But there are also a lot of drills for things like transitive/intransitive pairs, potential, passive, causative, passive-causative, etc. It doesn't look like it's very easy to find, but I found some places that have it. Here was one, but if you google a little, you can probably find others, maybe cheaper. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Luai_lashire Diglot Senior Member United States luai-lashire.deviant Joined 5646 days ago 384 posts - 560 votes Speaks: English*, Esperanto Studies: Japanese, French | Message 12 of 35 04 February 2012 at 5:31pm | IP Logged | |||||
Thanks, I will definitely look around for that! I might be able to get my mom to buy it as a present. ;) Do you know if the tapes are absolutely necessary? I don't want to reduce the efficacy of the method but the tapes are pretty dang expensive. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Brun Ugle Diglot Senior Member Norway brunugle.wordpress.c Joined 6438 days ago 1292 posts - 1766 votes Speaks: English*, NorwegianC1 Studies: Japanese, Esperanto, Spanish, Finnish | Message 13 of 35 04 February 2012 at 5:47pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Well, I think the tapes are pretty important, but I need the practice for speaking and listening. Since you have access to native speakers and take a class, you might not need them for that.
Almost everything that is on the tapes is also written out in the book, except that it doesn't give the correct response to the drills in the book, which might make it a little difficult. Of course, it's usually easy enough to figure out the correct response if you have time to think about it, but the point of drills is to be able to do it fast and without thinking. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Luai_lashire Diglot Senior Member United States luai-lashire.deviant Joined 5646 days ago 384 posts - 560 votes Speaks: English*, Esperanto Studies: Japanese, French | Message 14 of 35 04 February 2012 at 6:02pm | IP Logged | |||||
Alright, I will try to get the tapes then. I definitely want to know I have the right answer for sure. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| g-bod Diglot Senior Member United KingdomRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5800 days ago 1485 posts - 2002 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese Studies: French, German | Message 15 of 35 05 February 2012 at 11:05pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Your list of weaknesses sounds very similar to mine, particularly correct particles and transitive/intransitive pairs. Passives/causatives are also bad but I get over this by avoiding using them except in a few set phrases like 「よく知られている」. I guess that will catch up with me later though!
I have started using my vocabulary deck on Anki to drill phrases rather than words or sentences, so I will often pair a noun + particle + verb and then drill it both from Japanese > English and English > Japanese. It's helping a little bit with transitivity pairs and some particles. I find it helps as well to try not to learn both the intransitive and transitive version of a verb at the same time, otherwise I am more likely to get the two confused. The organisation of your class sounds pretty challenging, how are the other students dealing with it? 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Luai_lashire Diglot Senior Member United States luai-lashire.deviant Joined 5646 days ago 384 posts - 560 votes Speaks: English*, Esperanto Studies: Japanese, French | Message 16 of 35 05 February 2012 at 11:44pm | IP Logged | |||||
It varies. This semester everyone seems to be getting good grades (there's a place online where I can compare myself with the average class grade, and it's pretty high), whereas in previous classes there were always a few people failing miserably; I guess by this level only the hardcore students are left. There's a girl who is absolutely dismal at speaking though. She has 1 second long pauses between each word and no sense of grammar at all. I guess she must do OK on homework. That said, I don't think most of them retain stuff all that well. They get through the lesson. Then anything that we don't continue to use extensively in class goes right out of their memories. Every now and then the teacher will bring up some old grammar point in order to compare with something new and you can see the panic on the students faces when they don't remember the old grammar at all. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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