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TixhiiDon
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 Message 177 of 758
20 April 2012 at 12:32am | IP Logged 
Expugnator wrote:
ბევრი რამ მაქვს საყიდელი. I want to do a lot of shopping.
Is the Georgian sentence correct? I don't understand why მაქვს at this sentence.


You can use მაქვს together with the future participle, here საყიდელი from ყიდულობს, to
mean "I have ... to do". It works pretty much the same as the English equivalent so it's
very easy to understand for English-speakers, at least. I don't know whether you have
anything similar in Portuguese.

The only problem is forming the future participle. There seems to be more exceptions
than rules!
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Expugnator
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 Message 178 of 758
20 April 2012 at 12:45am | IP Logged 
So it would be something like "I have a lot to be bought"?
Yes we would have that "Tenho muito o que comprar", we just don't have a future participle, that's were Georgian's uniqueness shows up. The English translation confused me then.
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 Message 179 of 758
20 April 2012 at 2:20pm | IP Logged 
Ok so, "ძაან" is quite informal and is used at all times in everyday speech. As for writing, it depends what you are writing. Say, if it was FB or any other online site, it would be fairly normal to write it, Georgian script - Latin script doesn't matter. Naturally, you would expect it more from young people than older. For any other means of writing, which is not informal, you would use "ძალიან" obviously. Another thing is if you hear "ძალიან" in informal speech, it might be used to intensify the meaning, like: "აუ ძაˈლიან მაგარი კინოა" (usually stressed at first "ა") meaning "It's such a cool movie".

Quote:
"I play tennis"


მე ვთამაშობ ტენისს.



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 Message 180 of 758
20 April 2012 at 11:38pm | IP Logged 
I spend all day counting time for the best period, which is when i'm finally able to study Georgian. This is after I have studied both Chinese and Advanced French.

book2

ტორტის ყიდვას ვაპირებ. I actually plan to buy a cake.
No word for "actually" in the Georgian sentence.

SF17 lesson was about health. I don't even know most of the words in English, so I didn't bother studying it in depth. No new grammar.

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 Message 181 of 758
23 April 2012 at 9:52pm | IP Logged 
Back at Georgian after the weekend.

book2:

მაგრამ არც თუ ისე ძვირის.But nothing too expensive.
I see that the verb 'to be' is omitted in the Georgian sentence. But how would be "But nothing that is too expensive"? Would a sort of subjunctive be used?

რა თქმა უნდა - of course
Is it used in all contexts when 'of course' can be used in English? How does it translate literally?
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 Message 182 of 758
23 April 2012 at 10:51pm | IP Logged 
SF200 - Lesson 18, only two to go!

The vocabulary about politics is mostly cognate. But then I finally learned the word for world, სამყარო! Reminds me of Norwegian word for together, sammen...

There's also მსოფლიო. What's the difference between მსოფლიო and სამყარო?

This lesson introduces two news texts. They're rather long and advanced, and not my focus right now, either (on politics). I'm going to do a lot of readings in politics when I start using the Georgian Newspaper reader. I did practice some headlines at one of the exercises. Verbs are invariably at the end of them.

რუსეთი საქართველოს საბოტაჟში ადანაშაულებს - Who accuses whom in this sentence? It seems to me that Russia is the subject and Georgia is the object, in the dative case, but I don't know how the verb 'to accuse' works.

I also had a look at Lesson 19 which is about the army, and doesn't have any new grammar. I'll take one more look tomorrow then proceed to lesson 20, about the hospital. Then on Wednesday I want to start a new book (which would be either Hewitt's Learner Grammar or Tschenkeli's).

I'm currently reviewing lesson 03 from Beginner's Georgian as well. Things start to make much more sense now on my second wave.
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 Message 183 of 758
23 April 2012 at 11:38pm | IP Logged 
Expugnator wrote:
SF200 - Lesson 18, only two to go!
...
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Wow!
Great Job! Did you find that course useful?! I just got mine in the mail today.

Did you get that Peace Corps link?
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 Message 184 of 758
23 April 2012 at 11:55pm | IP Logged 
It is useful but rather clumsy. Learning all the vocabulary at once doesn't suit me, but I'd suggest doing it as a refresher after Beginner's Georgian. Little grammar but quite a lof of actual language usage. You're allowed to have a glance at some grammar aspects they don't cover. I mean, it's not like they fear adding a sentence which is necessary at that context just because they haven't covered the grammar yet.

I got Peace Corps link, it's the same I've downloaded. Only now I realize it's 424 mb. The first time I downloaded, I might have deleted the videos for saving disk space.


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