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zecchino1991
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 Message 33 of 758
30 January 2012 at 7:51pm | IP Logged 
I don't think Georgian uses glottal stops. And Murdoc is right because the stress is normally on the first
syllable, and in "is ar aris" I believe the stress should be on '"ar".
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 Message 34 of 758
02 February 2012 at 10:06pm | IP Logged 
I couldn't study yesterday, a little busy. But today I continued.

Lesson 13 on book2.

რას საქმიანობს?
Does საქმიანობს mean to work in the sense of having a profession? It seems to be a different conjugation.

სად გიყვართ წასვლა? Where do they like to go?
Is it the verb to like plus a nominal form for 'to go'?

მათ არ უყვართ ცეკვა. They don't like to dance.
მათ is the dative of ისინი and ცეკვა is the nominal form of the verb to dance, right?

I'm done with Kiziria's lesson 04, though I admit i didn't pay much attention to the dialogue this time. I had read it two days ago and today I only listened to it once. Still, I think i'm starting to retain a good amount of vocabulary. I know that Kiziria alone won't bring me to an intermediate level, not even A2, but I want to keep on doing other resources regularly until I can at least achieve such level.
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 Message 35 of 758
02 February 2012 at 10:20pm | IP Logged 
Expugnator wrote:

რას საქმიანობს?
Does საქმიანობს mean to work in the sense of having a profession? It seems to be a
different conjugation.


Not sure about the specific meaning. It seems to me to be more like "What does he
occupy himself with?", but maybe you are correct. We need Murdoc for this one!
საქმიანობს is a so-called Class III (or Third Conjugation) verb. They form the future
tense differently to Class I and II.

Expugnator wrote:

სად გიყვართ წასვლა? Where do they like to go?
Is it the verb to like plus a nominal form for 'to go'?


Yep. But it's actually "Where do you (plural or formal) like to go?"

Expugnator wrote:

მათ არ უყვართ ცეკვა. They don't like to dance.
მათ is the dative of ისინი and ცეკვა is the nominal form of the verb to dance, right?


Yep.


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 Message 36 of 758
03 February 2012 at 9:15pm | IP Logged 
Today I could do one book2 and one lesson from Kiziria. I've checked book2's table of contents and it seems there's a lot of vocabulary to be learned through 100 lessons.. I think it will be appropriate to continue doing it as I advance with normal textbooks.

As for Kiziria's lesson 05, comparative and superlative came up more logically than what I previously saw in Hewitt's. I really regret Kiziria not teaching that many verbal tenses, so I only hope I will have enough vocabulary to continue learning grammar from other books. Grammar is starting to come out very logically, both cases and postpositions. I mentally make Georgian sentences myself.
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 Message 37 of 758
04 February 2012 at 10:29pm | IP Logged 
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რას საქმიანობს?


Tixhiidon, "What does he occupy himself with?" is spot-on.


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 Message 38 of 758
06 February 2012 at 9:37pm | IP Logged 
book2 lesson 15, on fruits and vegetables.

ჩვენ პური და ბრინჯი გვჭირდება. We need bread and rice.
What verbal form is გვჭირდება? I assume პური and ბრინჯი are in the nominative? Do all constructions with "need" follow this pattern?

I'm at lesson 06 on Kiziria. If I keep doing on lesson a day, things will end up sooner than expected. Hope I don't panic as for what should come next!
ეს საჩუქარი ჩემი დისთვის ვიყიდე. I bought this gift for my sister.
Is ვიყიდე the aorist?
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 Message 39 of 758
06 February 2012 at 9:44pm | IP Logged 
Yes ვიყიდე is the aorist. :)
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 Message 40 of 758
06 February 2012 at 10:35pm | IP Logged 
გვჭირდება is a Class IV verb, where everything is inverted, kind of like мне нравится or мне хочется in
Russian, except more complicated :)

The subject ჩვენ is in the dative, which here is identical to the nominative, and the object პური და ბრინჯი is
indeed in the nominative. The object prefix გვ for first person plural is added to the front of the verb, and the
subject ending for third person singular ა (singular because plural inanimate nouns take singular verb
agreements) is added to the end.

Lots of important verbs belong to this class, such as "to have", "to want", "to need", "to like", and "to love". I
think Kiziria gets to them around Chapter 10, but she leaves quite a lot of important stuff out, so you will need
to go to Aronson or Hewitt for a fuller picture.

Edited by TixhiiDon on 07 February 2012 at 4:20am



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