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 Message 513 of 758
13 November 2012 at 7:39pm | IP Logged 
Nice to see that I'm more than halfway through грузинский язык с мамой. Actually there are only three to four days left of study, because the remaining pages are just 3 lessons. I'm sure it would be a smooth and nice book to follow if it were in English or my native language. Even in Russian, I could learn a lot. I recognized some vocabulary from the thematic lessons at Nikolaishvili's book.

Still slow with ACC. I think more than 3, 4 pages is pushing a bit too hard, I had better understand properly those few pages I happen to read each day.
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 Message 514 of 758
14 November 2012 at 5:51pm | IP Logged 
Still with "mom":

გეთაყვა - It says "please". I haven't come across it before. How often is it used, at which context? Which verb does it come from?
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 Message 515 of 758
16 November 2012 at 8:29pm | IP Logged 
Quote:
გეთაყვა - It says "please". I haven't come across it before. How often is it used, at which context? Which verb does it come from?


It is quite formal and rarely used. I imagine that it must come from "გეთაყვანებით" – I adore you (which has never occurred to me before). "თაყვანისცემა" – to adore, worship.


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 Message 516 of 758
19 November 2012 at 5:30pm | IP Logged 
So, I've finished Грузинский язык с мамой and tomorrow I'm leaning towards starting to read a grammar book from scratch. This book could as well be the grammar reference at the armazi site, which is shorter and would give me a quick refresh so I don't have to revisit Aronson's grammar anytime soon.

During the weekend I could finish the second excerpt from Dumbadze and now I'm moving on to Gamsaxurdia, but I must say this approach is being quite tiresome. Even though I have the translation, I still have to reason the whole sentences and sometimes translate a few words so that I am sure of their meanings. I might have reached a plateâu and I find it hard to make any progresses now, even in terms of vocabulary. I really regret not being able to read German at this moment, because then I'd be doing the exercise translations at Tschenkéli's second tome which are exactly what I need. But maybe I can try it anyway, as I've been already using a Russian-based textbook.
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 Message 517 of 758
19 November 2012 at 8:33pm | IP Logged 
My next book will be Parlons Georgien. It's not a textbook, just an enhanced phrasebook/linguistical introduction. I'm going to focus on its remarks about verbs. Then comes another grammar book and so on.
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20 November 2012 at 5:09pm | IP Logged 
So, it was a wise decision to read Parlons Géorgien. I've taken a glance at the section about verbs and it provided an appropriate introduction on the verbal forms i'm struggling the most with. It's written in French, my favorite base language after (after my native one). I hope to finish the book before next week and then I'll have to decide what to do again.

I do need to delve into short excerpts of native material. The long reading passages at ACC are demotivating. News items, fairy tales, all of these could help, but I'm still a bit skeptical as for trying a resource without a translation from a textbook.
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 Message 519 of 758
20 November 2012 at 6:35pm | IP Logged 
Once again I read four pages from Gamsaxurdia's passage. This time I was even more negligent. I didn't bother overlearning the syntax or some slightly obscure words. I didn't cross-check words at a dictionary. I'm getting a bit more exposed to participles and the perfect, but that's all. I really need more textbook learning.
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 Message 520 of 758
21 November 2012 at 5:59pm | IP Logged 
Just by reading two pages at Parlons Géorgien about Georgian verbs I got an overall that I haven't found in any textbooks. It's impressive how French people really manage to simplify and to 'bring to life' the most obscure grammatical phenomena. Now I think the following sections will give me the overview on the Georgian verb I really need. It's much better when you first understand what's about that form before being presented with several rows of verbal forms you don't know how and when to use.


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