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 Message 57 of 758
10 February 2012 at 10:07pm | IP Logged 
Book2 19

რისი მომზადება გინდა დღეს? What do you want to cook today?
Which tense is მომზადება? Or is it verbal noun?

დავჭრა ხახვი?     Shall I cut the onions?
I know that ხახვი means onion, but I don't get how this "shall i cut" is rendered. Again, which verbal form?

Kiziria's 10

I still have some exercises to finish for this lesson, but let's go. I didn't appreciate much the way all the interrogative and relative pronouns where introduced. I think it turned out quite messy.

ქველაფერი, რაც ქეთინომ თქვა, მართალია. Everything that Ketino said is true.
Now, I see that Ketino is in a different case. Is it the ergative? Is the verb to say a 4th conjugation verb? I see this is a more advanced grammar topic now.
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 Message 58 of 758
10 February 2012 at 11:08pm | IP Logged 
Expugnator wrote:
Book2 19

რისი მომზადება გინდა დღეს? What do you want to cook today?
Which tense is მომზადება? Or is it verbal noun?


It's the verbal noun for მოამზადებს

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დავჭრა ხახვი?     Shall I cut the onions?
I know that ხახვი means onion, but I don't get how this "shall i cut" is rendered.
Again, which verbal form?


It's the optative form, which has quite a few uses, and here means "Shall I cut?" The
3rd person future tense is დაჭრის

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ქველაფერი, რაც ქეთინომ თქვა, მართალია. Everything that Ketino
said is true.
Now, I see that Ketino is in a different case. Is it the ergative? Is the verb to say a
4th conjugation verb? I see this is a more advanced grammar topic now.


Yes, it's the ergative case. "Say" is not 4th conjugation, but is highly irregular.
You need to learn all the tenses and forms pretty much one by one.
By the way, it's ყველაფერი.

Edited by TixhiiDon on 10 February 2012 at 11:08pm

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 Message 59 of 758
12 February 2012 at 4:09am | IP Logged 
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თქვენ ბინას აქირავებთ?
It seems აქირავებთ is the same verb to rent, but which tense?


Why isn't it "iqiravebt"?
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 Message 60 of 758
12 February 2012 at 7:00am | IP Logged 
I didn't notice that. It certainly should be iqiravebT.
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 Message 61 of 758
12 February 2012 at 9:56pm | IP Logged 
Sorry for the typos guys, it's just that I use Google qwerty keyboard and when I type q I get ქ and ყ when I type y, so I still need to get totally used.
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 Message 62 of 758
12 February 2012 at 10:22pm | IP Logged 
No the problem was that it says "Aqiravebt" with an ა. When people write q it usually means ქ. So that part's
ok. Maybe we should all just start writing in Georgian letters haha..

Edited by zecchino1991 on 12 February 2012 at 10:24pm

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 Message 63 of 758
12 February 2012 at 10:30pm | IP Logged 
Quote:
თქვენ ბინას აქირავებთ?


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Why isn't it "iqiravebt"?


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I didn't notice that. It certainly should be iqiravebT.


Depends what you wanna say.
თქვენ ბინას აქირავებთ? means "Are you renting a flat out"?
თქვენ ბინას იქირავებთ? – Will you rent a flat?


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 Message 64 of 758
14 February 2012 at 2:01am | IP Logged 
book2 20

This is about "small talk". Book2 translates it as პატარა დიალოგი. I'm afraid this is a literal translation. Is it correct? What would be a proper translation for the concept of "small talk"?

მყუდროდ მოეწყვეთ! - Make yourself comfortable.
Which tense is მოეწყვეთ?

რას დალევთ?     What would you like to drink?
Is დალევთ future tense?

გიყვართ კონცერტზე სიარული? - Do you like to go to concerts?
It seems Georgian uses a different verb in these situations, სიარული translates as walk, so it's more like "do you like walking on concerts...

Kiziria's 11

A tough lesson with optative being introduced. I don't like lessons on recipes that much - it was a recipe lesson that made me quit Hewitt's book. Still, I managed to survive. The optative allows us to convey a lot of meanings in Georgian, it is a pretty useful mood.

Let me see if I understood something: when you use the optative for an invitation, in the sense of "Let's", you may - or may not - add the მოდი(თ) (imperative?) before the optative. The optative, though, should always be in the 1st plural - ჩვენ form, with ვ- and -თ, regardless whether you're calling that person შენ or თქვენ...Is it so?



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